Poor Jeremy -11/30/06

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Postby Glenn565 » Thu Nov 30, 2006 9:02 pm

Not sure how he's a straw man per se, as he lacks a prior to base any kind of distortion from.
No, he means Straw Man (Literature).

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Postby dcsimpson » Thu Nov 30, 2006 9:32 pm

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Jeremy and Felicia are antagonists, but they're believeable. People like them are actually pretty common, sadly...
I'll grant that he is exaggerated, but trust me I've known school administrators to say things that come to the exact same thing.
I might even dispute that he's that much of an exaggeration. Maybe this wasn't everyone's experience--and if not, I'm very happy for you--but trust me, there are any number of school administrators who openly believe that 1) bullying is a part of growing up and serves a useful socializing function, and 2) kids who are picked on for being "different" need to start acting normal, or they're just asking for it.

I've known my share, and I know I'm not alone in it.

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Postby Rikirk » Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:13 pm

This kinda sorta reminds me of how children...and some adults are encouraged to embrace their own individuality and uniqueness, and when they do...they are slapped down for it. "Oh...your the weird one...the non-conformist"

uhg...society is a joke.
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Postby Priest_Revan » Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:20 pm

It's funny,


in cartoons, it seems that the football players can always get away with anything.
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Postby Bocaj Claw » Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:24 pm

In cartoons?
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Postby CoreyFox » Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:39 pm

I like Ozy the way he is!

Oh, well. There's always the superintendent, or the school board director.

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Postby Tabris_The_17th » Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:43 pm

2) kids who are picked on for being "different" need to start acting normal, or they're just asking for it.

I've known my share, and I know I'm not alone in it.
*raises hand* Right here. I saw a lot of that go on when I was in High School. It was especially disenchating to see how some genuinely good people were looked upon after the Columbine shootings simply because of how they dressed. It sure did suck to go to High School during that time. Not to mention I had to hear the "be more normal" jazz from my Dad all the time....strangely enough, even though I'm two weeks away from graduating college, I still hear it from him.

How can they expect kids to respect other cultures and so forth if they teach them they can't be unique themselves? I can imagine the child brainwashed by the pressure to conform will wonder why the "lady with the dot on her head can't be more normal," or why "that guy is eating with sticks, can't he eat with a fork like a normal person?" Seriously, where do you draw the line with that mentality?
in cartoons, it seems that the football players can always get away with anything.
No, not just in cartoons. This is sadly very much based in reality. I could cite a recent news story involving two local high schools to prove it. Not to mention, at my current college, there is a GREAT need for more parking lots. But guess who got a brand new practice field? Football team.
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Postby Priest_Revan » Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:46 pm

In cartoons?
Well, any thin' like cartoons.

Comics, ect.



To Tabris:

That really doesn't surprise me. Schools sometimes depend on football teams to make them look good and sometimes they protect their best players from harm to protect their school (which is a load of bull).
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Postby Dr. Doog » Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:27 pm

let's not forget the Lacrosse players of Duke University.

oh wait...they didn't actually do anything.
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Postby Luke B. » Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:02 am

Anyway, it's not the point of Vine to be a believable character, but to act as an inflation of an actual character trait found withtin authority figures in reality.
Actually, Vine is very, very believable - if anything, not exageration or inflation at all, but an understatement.

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Postby Bocaj Claw » Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:24 am

If anything, Principal Vine says what the other principals mean but don't say.
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Postby horsedreamer » Fri Dec 01, 2006 2:30 am

It's funny,


in cartoons, it seems that the football players can always get away with anything.
You should try going to a football school

Virginia Tech, where football players have a graduation rate more than 20% below the university average, and they are applauded.
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Postby Tabris_The_17th » Fri Dec 01, 2006 3:26 am

If anything, Principal Vine says what the other principals mean but don't say.
That's what I meant by "inflation." Perhaps I should have phrased it as "more overt." :dragon:
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Postby Tom Flapwell » Fri Dec 01, 2006 4:34 pm

DCS must have very little in the way of childhood nostalgia.

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Postby Muninn » Fri Dec 01, 2006 9:00 pm

This topic prompted three people to join the forums to post their criticisms on Mr. Vine. Interesting.


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