Monday, Dec. 17 2007--The Question

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Postby Svix » Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:09 pm

Gah! I'm not ready for such a revelation.

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Postby Bocaj Claw » Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:10 pm

You should have thought about that before you got into the car.
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Postby Svix » Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:17 pm

You should have thought about that before you got into the car.
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Postby CodeCat » Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:14 pm

Well the woman in the confection industry is obviously Shelley. So I win. :P
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Postby KJ Fellie » Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:27 pm

There was a contest? Does this mean I win, too?
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Postby Tom Flapwell » Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:46 pm

From the final panel, I have a feeling that the subject is dropped for good in O&M -- that neither Ozy nor DCS is interested in dwelling on the matter any further. Me, I'm just glad that the bio-dad isn't a stereotypical jilting jerk. DCS found ways to make both Ozy's and Millie's parental situations about as nontragic as possible.

This is assuming, of course, that Llewellyn isn't lying or saying things he's not sure of. I like to think he'll be serious on matters such as this.

Let's see, other O&M questions for which we can expect an eventual answer? There's the possibility of Llewellyn and Ms. Mudd getting married in the comic, but that's all I can think of. We're not going to see the main characters in their teens or as outright lovers; nor do I expect any other secondary characters to form a couple. I'm not interested in potential family mysteries of anyone else.
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Postby gforce422 » Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:04 pm

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Postby Hanging Tree » Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:23 pm

I'm kind of dissapointed on how it turned out. It would seem that the subject is closed, but without any kind of follow up the identity of Ozy's father is really nothing more then a trivia question now. It seems like a waste of potential to have the revelealing of his father as part of a grander storyline. It is basically a footnote. The identity could have been remained secret and none of the previous strips about the debate would have changed.

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Postby dcsimpson » Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:38 pm

I'm kind of dissapointed on how it turned out. It would seem that the subject is closed, but without any kind of follow up the identity of Ozy's father is really nothing more then a trivia question now.
How many times do I have to say this? The "identity of Ozy's father" is Llewellyn. I do not consider the real-ness of adoptive parent-child relationships to be a trivial point. :? :!:

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Postby Tom Flapwell » Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:44 pm

I think it's not that people are trivializing adoption so much as they think DCS is trivializing blood relation.
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Postby CodeCat » Mon Dec 17, 2007 7:32 pm

How many times do I have to say this? The "identity of Ozy's father" is Llewellyn. I do not consider the real-ness of adoptive parent-child relationships to be a trivial point. :? :!:
It's just a matter of semantics really. When people ask that question, they're implying they mean his biological father. We all already know Llewellyn is his... emotional father, if I may say it like that.
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Postby VenM2 » Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:08 pm

For a long time I thought that his father would never be revealed and I accepted that, makes Ozy more mysterious :grin: . It could have been prolonged but I like it the way it is.
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Postby dcsimpson » Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:39 pm

I think it's not that people are trivializing adoption so much as they think DCS is trivializing blood relation.
And why not trivialize blood relation in cases of adoption? None of my four adopted cousins has ever sought out his birth parents, and not one of them has, so far as I've been able to tell, lost any sleep over it. Everything a parent is to a child, their adoptive parents have been to them. And that's the whole point.

I think it's terribly misguided to go around using terms like "real father" or just "father" to describe a biological relationship that has been, effectively, canceled out, years since, by adoption, and no, I don't think it's just a semantic point. This stuff matters.

Llewellyn is Ozy's father, and there is no bloody asterisk after the word.
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Postby Tom Flapwell » Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:40 pm

Well, you know this forum is full of insatiably curious people.

"Curious" in both senses, mind.
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Postby dcsimpson » Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:43 pm

Well, you know this forum is full of insatiably curious people.

"Curious" in both senses, mind.
I have no problem with curiosity. I have a bit more of an issue with ignorance/insensitivity. I don't mean to go around slinging accusations at people whose intentions are, after all, harmless, but I don't apologize for being passionate on behalf of adoptive families, and I really do think the continued use of terms like "Ozy's real father" demonstrates a disturbing level of ignorance on the subject.


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