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Postby VenM2 » Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:28 am

:? I have a metaphor of my own but what is the use, I loose everything in the end. Employer says look its fine, just needed to fix it up, man says too late I already found a job. All this over a drawing is so painful, now I doubt I can forgive myself at all now :sad:.
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Postby Arloest » Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:30 am

Y'all'd better start chillaxin' or I'm gonna bust heads :wag:
Me and you both brother :wag:
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Postby Sage » Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:31 am

All this over a drawing
That's why I was confused...

Now, have we come to a compromise yet? Seems like Donnie is still willing to draw you Niner, and you don't lose anything from it if for whatever reason he can't with all the details...

Or am I missing something?
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Postby VenM2 » Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:36 am

Who said you had to draw them anyways?
... how in the world did I miss that :x I know. Pitiful excuse, just to get out of making some more people. Look its done, I'm sorry man.
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Postby Richard K Niner » Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:37 am

All this over a drawing
That's why I was confused...
Well, up front, that's pretty much what it is, but the initial rejection, coupled with what I felt were poor rationalizations, kinda led to my bitterness about the whole thing, which persisted even after Donnie relented on the original issue; within a few days, I had pretty much forgot about it; this thread just brought the whole thing back.

I'll invite Donnie to have one more public statement, and if I feel the need to keep the whole thing up, I'll move it over to PMs; I think I made all the point of privilege I needed to.
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Postby VenM2 » Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:42 am

I'm out of gas and the only thing running is the window washers. Nothing else to say but shed tears. Didn't see the nuke until it already hit and now it hurts and nothing to do about it other than to pay reparations for crimes forgotten and leave it at that. Being stubborn never really helped me at all.

Guess it is too late to say that when I changed my course I was going to do you anyways and let the old topic die.
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Postby Rooster » Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:14 am

Wow...drama...

*calls hazmat-clad cleanup teams to decontaminate area*

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Postby Bocaj Claw » Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:44 am

I suggest the usage of flame throwers and those little flashy things from Men In Black. You know, the ones that accidentally cause brain tumors?
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Postby VenM2 » Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:50 am

sorry something is in they eye, can't open them and I'm outta gas.
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Postby Svix » Tue Jun 12, 2007 1:10 pm

What is up with people here?

And what's with these stupid metaphors? I'm slightly between laughing and screaming at a refusal of being drawn being broken down and compared to specs of dust, spitting and god knows what. Oh and nukes and windscreen washers...right.

I'm glad there are a few people here trying to lighten the mood up, even Donnie said in the other thread 'it's not like your lives depend on it'; damn right, drawing others is a courtesy.

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Postby Sage » Tue Jun 12, 2007 1:13 pm

I think Niner said it was the thought of the drawing, not the actual drawing...

Apparently Niner is angry that Donnie is going to draw him. At least that's how I see it. It's not what was said but it might as well have been what happened.
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Postby VenM2 » Tue Jun 12, 2007 1:18 pm

Look at the old topic. I made big boo boos.
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Postby Sage » Tue Jun 12, 2007 1:21 pm

lol, c'mon, all those muscles on you are hard to draw
Who said you had to draw them anyways?
Ok ok, I'll draw you rich.
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Postby Richard K Niner » Tue Jun 12, 2007 1:39 pm

What is up with people here?

And what's with these stupid metaphors? I'm slightly between laughing and screaming at a refusal of being drawn being broken down and compared to specs of dust, spitting and god knows what. Oh and nukes and windscreen washers...right.
Getting spit on the face is actually a common metaphor for rejection in general, in my experience. It just really doesn't feel that way for me unless the rejection is completely unexpected in the first place. The spec on the face part was my way of referring to what really struck me as a minor detail: in this case, the fact that I draw part of my character's musculature.

Maybe it's just my CS background that makes me expect people to do their research when they first assess a task (systems analysis), divide the problem into smaller ones (algorithm design), categorized by importance, and optimize the minor ones out until such a point that you can handle them (optimization and planning).
I think Niner said it was the thought of the drawing, not the actual drawing...

Apparently Niner is angry that Donnie is going to draw him. At least that's how I see it. It's not what was said but it might as well have been what happened.
Eh, my anger was hardly over the drawing, but over the selection process that originally excluded me. And even then, when Donnie finally said he'd draw me, four pages later, the unease I was feeling made me interpret his comments saying he would do so as reluctant i.e. he was only doing it because I complained (and not because he wanted to).

It really didn't help, but I let it slide for a week and a bit. I mean, if somebody manages to empty your bank account, and you happen to try to use it before you find out, you're going to want more than that original sum back (you'll also want them to cover that steep overdraft fee they cost you, and some extra for the stress of having to deal with both an angry bank and a lower credit rating).
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Postby Svix » Tue Jun 12, 2007 1:58 pm

Aren't you blowing this 'rejection' out of proportion? I was reading the original thread since it started and you didn't seem to mind you weren't in his first list. The statement about not wanting to draw because of the muscles wasn't exactly spiteful.

I'm not sure what you mean by bringing systems analysis and algorithm design into this; are you taught to act robotically and put every action - no matter how mundane - through a series of rigorous checks and processes? Surely this happens naturally and spontaneously and may be called 'common sense'?

Perhaps people shouldn’t offer to do things around here if it causes so much tension.


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