Hmmm..where have we seen this before?

[Foxchild]

Global warming is a lie.

Or media hype. Hey, in the 40's and 50's we were headed for another ice age.:

[Luke B.]

Global warming is a lie.

Or media hype. Hey, in the 40's and 50's we were headed for another ice age.

The war in Iraq is a lie, it isn't real! D:

*plugs ears, closes eyes*

[Angstwolf]

Global warming is a lie.

Or media hype. Hey, in the 40's and 50's we were headed for another ice age.

The war in Iraq is a lie, it isn't real! D:

*plugs ears, closes eyes*

Except I disbelieve in global warming based on a reasonable amount of factual information from both angles.

[Richard K Niner]

Global warming is a lie.

Or media hype. Hey, in the 40's and 50's we were headed for another ice age.

The war in Iraq is a lie, it isn't real! D:

*plugs ears, closes eyes*

Except I disbelieve in global warming based on a reasonable amount of factual information from both angles.

Care to share it with us?

[Angstwolf]

It's mostly charts and such I found at my local library. However, I'd recommend reading State of Fear by Michael Chrichton to get some information opposing global warming. Obviously not all the information the book contains is factual since it's a work of fiction, but the parts that are fact have sources listed with them.

Also, had I known people were actually going to turn this into a discussion, I wouldn't have stated it quite how I did. I don't believe global warming is nonexistent, I just believe that the media, as well as many scientists, have taken it way out of proportion. I'm not going to deny that greenhouse gases are slowly warming the Earth. I'm also not going to deny that something needs to be done to reduce the amount of those gases that is released. I just think that the majority of the warming trend we're seeing is caused by Earth's natural cycle of warming and cooling. If you subscribe to modern theory, Earth has a small ice age (not a true ice age, but a period of marked decrease in average temperature) every 400 years or so. In following, there are also periods of warmth between these mini ice ages. Since we have only been keeping accurate temperature data for most of the world since the early 1800's (coincidentally the approximate time of the Industrial Revolution), there's really no proof that this warming trend is being caused mainly by greenhouse gases.

Again, I didn't really mean that global warming doesn't exist, even though that's what I said. I'm just saying that the phenomenon is being vastly blown out of proportion without conclusive evidence that it is a big deal.

In closing, though, I'm okay with the amount of attention it's getting, simply because there are so many other reasons for us to develop cleaner sources of energy. The fear of global warming is a driving force in the research that is supposedly being done.

[Richard K Niner]

There's a reason we refer to it as "climate change" now...

The last 'little ice age' was 400 years long (from 1400 to 1800), so it's not exactly a 400 year cycle. Though you may find interesting.

[Steve the Pocket]

In closing, though, I'm okay with the amount of attention it's getting, simply because there are so many other reasons for us to develop cleaner sources of energy. The fear of global warming is a driving force in the research that is supposedly being done.

That's my position. I don't have the time to research either side, much less both, and really don't care what the facts are (a rare thing for me, I assure you) in this case. Reports of global warming could be a conspiracy generated by space aliens for all I care. If it keeps us from using up the world's oil supply before it's too late, it's got a thumbs-up from me.

Silliness aside, I do know this: 100% of all scientific papers on global warming from a randomly selected sample voice total confidence that global warming is a real, human-caused phenomenon. And that only about 50% of the public believes it. And that Al Gore blames the media's misguided attempts at being "unbiased" for that.

[Muninn]

Whether the threat is real or not, fossil fuels are finite, so we'd better have improved our technologies on other sources before there's not enough of them left. It took a century or so to get cars nowadays as efficient and comfortable as they are, so obviously it's not going to happen overnight with wind, wave or solar energy.

[VolkswagenFox]

No Need to reply....just testing thread and post ID's

[Comrade K]

I'm sure we could develop more efficient vehicles and power sources more quickly than they have been in the past. Oil companies have paid to keep new innovations under wraps so they can continue to make maximum profit.

Anyway, I do believe global warming is occuring, but, as most of you have said, I wonder how much of an impact we're making, compared to nature. Ultimately, again, I must agree, it doesn't really matter if global warming is occuring or not, because, like Jack said, we're gonna need some new sources of energy soon, and secondly, even if pollution isn't causing the world to heat up, I'm still convinced that inhaling a nice dose of smog ain't too healthy.

[Angstwolf]

Yes. Yes we do go off topic a lot. IT'S NOT MY FAULT.

Your prediction of the future puts me in the mindset of Ray Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451. I can see it happening.5

[Zaaphod]

That explains so much.

[Disco Inferno]

(Bill told the forum that she's actually still dressed in the last panel, but her fur is covering her clothes.)

I'm just going to forget I read this last part

[Dr. Doog]

hooray for bumping topics with little to no content

[Disco Inferno]

I'm sorry if I'm bumping old topics, but no site I've ever gone to before has it been a crime to respond to a topic still on the front page, and within the first few topics.