The Beatles are overated

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The Beatles are overated

Postby sandblaster » Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:03 pm

I'm sick of people saying the Beatles are great. They have some alright songs but they are basically a pop band from the 60s on acid. They try to look deep with nonsequeter lyrics but it comes off as either the lsd influenced ramblings of a mad man or a person who is trying to be poetic so people think he is deep. Their insturmentation is adequete, but hardly anything to write home about and is way over produced. Not to mention that Ringo is an incredibl lame drummer. He doesn't ever do anything intersting.

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Postby Luke B. » Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:43 pm

Overrated compared to what? The music of their time, or todays music, most of which is inspired by what the Beatles invented?

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Postby sandblaster » Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:44 pm

The music that has come since. Maybe they were the best at one point but things have improved since then. However many still live i nthe past and praise them

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Postby Bocaj Claw » Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:47 pm

Well, the Founding Fathers sure did leave their mark on this country, but things have improved since then. Boy, the Founding Fathers are sooOOOoo overrated. I can't believe some people still praise them.
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Postby sandblaster » Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:50 pm

The Founding Fathers are a perfect example. The idea of a Jeffersonian agarian state was valued well into the 1900s even though farming was never as productive as industrial work. Jefferson was very wrong on that account, and people should have looked to new ideas.

Plus the founding fathers were slave owners, opiom users, and attacked without provacation the goods owned by private companies.

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Postby Dr. Doog » Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:49 pm

the founding fathers were slave owners, opiom users, and attacked without provacation the goods owned by private companies.
how does that help your argument? sounds pretty good to me...
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Postby sandblaster » Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:56 pm

What are you some kind of communist? The Boston Tea Party was a direct attack not on The Brittish Crown but on a company that was only trying to sell tea. Where they responcible for the Stamp Act? No they were not. They were just an innocent bystander attacked at the brutish hands of rebels for no good reason.

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Postby Rooster » Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:20 pm

The Beatles did some appauling crap, and people do tend to rate them a lot more than I do, but they are a seriously good band by todays or then's standards.

Over produced? Are you dense, it was the 60s ffs. Digital hadn't been invented. Hell, most recording studios including Abby Road were still using analogue reel-to-reel recorders. They have no compression on the drums, something thought of as a natural no-no to us studio engineers nowadays. I'd say that by modern standards most of their stuff sounds raw as hell, especially anything from Abby Road and earlier.

And Ringo being a crap drummer; The other three members of the band were creative as hell, Ringo was the bedrock. Someone that would do his part without complaits or adjustments. Without Ringo being as "dull" as he was, The Beatles would've broke up years before their time.

It's true to say that most of the hyped bands of yesteryear; Nirvana, Queen, Led Zepelin, etc, are not as good as people say. Kurt Cobain was not a "lyrical genious", Brian May is not "The best quitarist ever" and neither is Jimmy Page.

But that's not to say that no one should like them. If people want to like music, let them. Why do you care what they say? Just listen to what you want, and let them do what they want.

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Postby TyVulpine » Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:26 pm

Top Musical Acts of All-time:
1. Elvis (Like there'd be anyone else?)
2. Beatles
3. Elton John (no other singer/band alive today has done more than he has, [#1 Hits, Top 10 Hits, Top 40 Hits, etc put together, and was the very first singer to have a record debut at #1, when "Captain Fantastic" pulled the trick])
4. Madonna
5. Michael Jackson

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Postby johndoe0028 » Wed Nov 22, 2006 12:12 am

<sarcasm>I LIKE LED ZEPPELIN, SO EVERYONE ELSE SHOULD! D:<</sarcasm>

Seriously, so what if people say the Beatles are great? Merely an opinion, and everyone is entitled to their own. Yay, diversity!

Personally, I LOVE Led Zeppelin. Some people think they are the crappiest band ever. I don't agree, but I respect that view.

I'm not a total Beates fan, though. >_>

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Postby Dr. Doog » Wed Nov 22, 2006 12:21 am

Are you going to make a thread about how They Might Be Giants aren't the best band, just 'cause I and many others have them as our favourite band?
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Postby Caoimhin » Wed Nov 22, 2006 2:56 am

I never cared for The Beatles much, to say their overrated? I think its rather people are afraid to criticize something (I mean something beyond, "they suck") that so many people hold dear. They did influence a lot, including other bands of the era who came a little later (The Rolling Stones, The Who, The Kinks). Even the Ramones who many bands today cite as an influence said they were Beatles fans. The thing is the Beatles divulged from their rock n' roll routes, the punk movement was all about (at least in NYC) bringing the raw sound back. Were the Ramones better musicians than the Beatles? Probably not. Were the Beatles the greatest? I really can't say. I get distracted too easily that I don't have time to look up each individual band member and carefully pull apart Beatles' songs, listening for every note.
They aren't overrated, but I sometimes doubt that people were really influenced by the Beatles all the way up to today. They just feel the need to list a whole bunch of forerunners, which, yes, they do actually probably listen to, that their favorite band was influenced by. Not really a complete thought there... Onward!

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