9 July - Malls and monuments.

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Postby Sage » Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:03 pm

But think, would Ozy and Millie be the same if Ozy was a girl and Millie a boy???


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Postby Llewthepoet » Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:41 pm

Good Strip!

WOW, this topic sure blew up fast! :shock:

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Postby Kojiro » Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:33 pm

But think, would Ozy and Millie be the same if Ozy was a girl and Millie a boy???


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perhaps...?
It does make one wonder about 'what if?'s.

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Postby Tom Flapwell » Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:35 pm

But think, would Ozy and Millie be the same if Ozy was a girl and Millie a boy???
You mean would the comic be the same? I don't think so. Some of the dynamics would be a little awkward, particularly in the ways they interact with characters who are more distinctly male or female (e.g., Millie with Felicia, Ozy with Jeremy).
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Postby Praadur » Mon Jul 09, 2007 7:19 pm

Ooh, I think I just saw a moment of silence on a web-forum, that'll be something to remember.

I also can't help but wonder how closely they'll be sticking to the stereotypes they're acting out.

Will Ozy want to get his hair done (we can but hope), and will our dear Millicent want to drag them both off to a testosterone soaked wrestling match, car derby, or monster truck rally?

Personally, I'm hoping that Ozy will pretend to show genuine interest in tupperware at some point.

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Postby BladeRaptor » Mon Jul 09, 2007 7:20 pm

Wow. Ozy sure looks girly. Any newcomers to the strip are going to be a little confused when they start reading the archives.
It makes me wonder... If you showed this strip to someone who had never seen any Ozy & Millie strips before, would they be able to spot the switch?

Anyway, about Millie's comment about being the successors to the town markets, I that's actually pretty dead-on, as thisWikipedia article shows. You might also be interested in this article from the New Yorker. It's over three years old, and six pages long, but it's still interesting. Some very clever design concepts went into the mall as we know it today. Like how they overcome "threshold resistance". They say a big part of selling things is getting customers in the door. But with malls, you're already in the door, so you're less hesitant to go into the stores.

Despite my normal dislike of the "in" crowd, I enjoy going to malls (well, except for pushy kiosk merchants and those annoying survey people), even though I usually go alone. The ones I usually go to are Franklin Mills, Neshaminy Mall, and my personal favorite, Oxford Valley Mall. I just like the atmosphere there better than the others. I'd like to visit the King of Prussia mall, but that'll probably have to wait until I have my own car. It'd probably be a real pain getting that far out into the Philadelphia suburbs on public transportation.

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Postby Caoimhin » Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:01 pm

testosterone soaked wrestling match, car derby, or monster truck rally?
Actually a monster truck rally would fit Millie either way... It would satisfy her chaotic side quite well actually. Also did you know that the closest thing to a modern mall was built in Italy in the 1860's? Heres the Wiki article to back to up:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malls

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"Indoor multi-vendor shopping is not a recent idea. Isfahan's Grand Bazaar, which is largely covered, dates from the 10th century A.D. The 10 kilometer long covered Tehran's Grand Bazaar also has a very old history. The Grand Bazaar of Istanbul was built in 15th century and is still one of the largest covered markets in the world with more than 58 streets and 4000 shops. The Oxford Covered Market in Oxford, England was officially opened on 1 November 1774 and is still going strong today. The Burlington Arcade in London was opened in 1819. The Arcade in Providence, Rhode Island introduced the concept to the United States in 1828. The Galleria Vittorio Emanuele II in Milan, Italy followed in the 1860s and is closer to large modern malls in spaciousness. Many other large cities created arcades and shopping centres in the late 19th century and early 20th century, including the Cleveland Arcade and GUM in Moscow in 1890. Early shopping centers designed for the automobile include Market Square, Lake Forest, Illinois (1916) and Country Club Plaza, Kansas City, Missouri (1924)."

A doo-dad smith would definitely be very probably for Ozy's draconic family, seeing how far into the past malls go...

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Postby Arloest » Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:18 pm

Oh hey, they've got a store called "Pants."
This is making me CRACK UP LAUGHING. At work.

A store called "Pants" would be the best thing EVER.
It would be EVEN better if there was a store called "Pants" that just sold glue. Or a store called "FACE" that just sold pants.
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Postby Fritz » Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:18 am

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Postby Rikirk » Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:36 am

I think I see where this is going...


Guess who they bump into in the next couple of strips...

Her name begins with an F and ends with an A, and then the shenanigans begin.

*and then they may bump into Jeremy*


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Postby Bocaj Claw » Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:37 am

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Postby TyVulpine » Tue Jul 10, 2007 3:06 am

Fiona? (K&K :-P)

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Postby Praadur » Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:35 am

I'm personally hoping that they'll run into their school counsellor at the mall, who's enjoying some off time doing some shopping.

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Postby Muninn » Tue Jul 10, 2007 3:46 pm

Doo-dad is a funny word and I would definitely browse a shop named that. I already like to do so wih shops like that. You never know what you'll find, like a car boot sale.

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Postby Caoimhin » Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:09 am

I wonder if they run into Felicia... Will they run into Avery also, seeing as how Felicia and Avery have gained some sort of 'understanding'?


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