Wednesday, November 17, 1999: Grunge is not dead

[NonsenseWords]

stop drawing that stupid half-shrug with the hands please it looks dumb

Ozy how did you knock your hat off backwards by throwing your head forwards?

[Arloest]

Grunge isn't that good, DCS.

Worst strip

[Cactus Jack]

Technically she doesn't say anything about the quality of grunge just that it smells, which it did since alot of grunge rockers weren't big on bathing.

I find it hard to imagine that unless you don't like rock at all you can't find one enjoyable grunge band since the term encompasses such a wide variety of acts ranging from punk to rock, to hard rock.

[Arloest]

I kinda like Alice in Chains, but that's sort of the closest I get.

[Maggot Brain]

PARTY HARD.

[Tom_Radigan]

Grunge isn't that good, DCS.

Worst strip

Yes, I've heard the term "grunge" years ago. But never did I find out what it means.

[Cactus Jack]

Grunge is a musical movement coming out of the Seattle area in the late 80s early 90s. It was a rejection of hair MEHTUL and the "sex drugs rock and roll" ideals that those bands typically sang about. Grunge bands typically embraced a messier image or tried to not garner an image at all and played a wide variety of rock. Also many grunge bands knew each other before becoming famous, would fill in for each other, and form side projects or new bands together.

[Arloest]

As much as I'm not a fan of grunge, I'll take it over that sex drugs and rock and roll 80's glam, ANY DAY.

[Bocaj Claw]

The kids seem to share my musical taste; I think it's well-documented by now.

So, yeah.

[Caoimhin]

As much as I'm not a fan of grunge, I'll take it over that sex drugs and rock and roll 80's glam, ANY DAY.

Oddly Bowie had moved on from that way before the 80s, glam has its roots in the 70s. Bowie was influenced by the Punk movement, specifically the Dolls, Ziggy Stardust was directly inspired by their act. But then again Bowie was always the coolest mainstream singer/musician/rockstar . He was also always ahead of the curve... But I digress, Bowie as Jereth(?) in Labyrinth, is the ultimate in 80s glam, is is full of awesomeness.

[Cactus Jack]

On the subject of glam and its origins. Alice Cooper was influential on bands that would go on to influence glam such as the New York Dolls. He himself also gained a resurgence in popularity after a long lull, mainly with Poison but also with other songs and an association with bands of the time such as Twisted Sister.

[Muninn]

Ozy how did you knock your hat off backwards by throwing your head forwards?

"Comic panels can only capture a specific moment of the scene, like a photograph. If the reader sees characters in the panel moving or engaged in an action they will likely assume that the panel is only showing a snippet of what they are doing. Their actions are carried on in the minds of the reader - provided the reader has an imagination greater than a slug."
- Comprehending Comics page 3, paragraph 14

[NonsenseWords]

And yet, when you're making only snippets of action, it's up to you, the artist, to show the more important parts-- the ones that visually flow. All that needed to be done was having Ozy throw his head back rather than forward and therefore make the action flow properly. I know what the intention was, but the drawing of it is poorly rendered for the action.

/animation student

[Muninn]

Maybe Simpson isn't that good with rendering panels, or Ozy's head being that way looks better visually in a comic (if not in animation).

[Arloest]

The Muninn/NonsenseWords debates are the best part of the Archives topics.