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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 8:20 pm
by Chris
Interesting, a single page comic turned this thread into a 6 paged tl;dr thread.
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:19 pm
by Cactus Jack
Had my tonsils out when I was 6 or 7. I couldn't talk for a week or so and I ate enough ice cream for my entire school!
BTW, no one liked my snoring Lew post? Just wanted to inject a little humor into the discussion. Or am I on probation for my meltdown last week? Yeah, I'm pretty ashamed about that.
Back on topic, I have a disability and cannot work full time. Therefore, I am on my parents health plan. In fact, my dad just renewed coverage for me. Point is, I'm kinda worried about what will happen when my parents die. I'll need something so I'm hoping this whole situation gets straightened before that happens.
If you have a disability you should be able to get medicare or medicade. I always mix up which is for old people and which is for white trash who claim to have a back injury that prevents them from working but doesn't prevent them from riding 4 Wheelers.
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:42 pm
by Extreme-Speed
This entire topic is irrelevant to me. The comic makes no sense to me either. How dissappointing.
Well, as the old economics mantra goes, there's no such thing as a free lunch. So no, it's not 'free', technically, in the sense that nothing is free.
Oxygen is free.
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:22 pm
by Bocaj Claw
This entire topic is irrelevant to me. The comic makes no sense to me either. How dissappointing.
Well, as the old economics mantra goes, there's no such thing as a free lunch. So no, it's not 'free', technically, in the sense that nothing is free.
Oxygen is free.
Oxygen is actually purchased in bulk from various planktons and trees in exchange for carbon credits.
Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 12:30 am
by sad jazz cantaloupe
not if people want to get cancer.
Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 1:13 am
by Gecko
No.
Incentive
–noun
1. something that incites or tends to incite to action or greater effort, as a reward offered for increased productivity.
An incentive is a reason/reward that causes you to perform an action.
Hence, you drink beer (action) because it will reduce your risk of cancer (incentive).
The statement as you put it: You reduce your risk of cancer because you drink beer; hence, drinking beer is the incentive to not get cancer. This is wrong.
Drinking beer is an action, not a reward; reduced risk of cancer is a reward, not an action. You've flipped the statement around and flipped the incentive/reward relationship with it. There's your mistake.
Can we all move on now?
Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 1:21 am
by sad jazz cantaloupe
fritz's problem was that he was interpreting "not getting cancer" as a reward, and not an action. so...?
and also that he enjoys saying that things are wrong regardless of whether he understands what the intended statement was or not.
Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 1:26 am
by Gecko
fritz's problem was that he was interpreting "not getting cancer" as a reward, and not an action. so...?
and also that he enjoys saying that things are wrong regardless of whether he understands what the intended statement was or not.
No, that was
your issue here.
yes there is. Scientists are working on modifying the ingredients of beer to make beer have the same cancer-preventing chemical that is found in red wine. So, drinking beer is the incentive to not get cancer.
you have it backwards
You said that drinking beer is the incentive to not getting cancer. My last post shows that you misinterpreted the meaning of 'incentive.'
Fritz summarized my entire post with the "you have it backwards."
Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 1:29 am
by Comrade K
So, if I not get cancer, I get to drink beer?
Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 1:55 am
by Gecko
So, if I not get cancer, I get to drink beer?
Tai, you pointed out the faulty reasoning so much more succinctly and in so much less time that my only course of action now is to kill you. :<
Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 2:05 am
by sad jazz cantaloupe
[the] problem was that he was interpreting "not getting cancer" as a reward, and not an action.
people get cancer. getting cancer is the action that people are doing. the ability to drink beer that can help prevent cancer is an incentive to not get cancer. The only problem was that my grammar is purposefully odd when used with the concepts we're discussing, and Fritz [and apparently anami] can't help himself but to rage at things like that.
problem solved
Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 3:37 am
by cougartiger
If you have a disability you should be able to get medicare or medicade. I always mix up which is for old people and which is for white trash who claim to have a back injury that prevents them from working but doesn't prevent them from riding 4 Wheelers.
Trust me, my parents have gone through every option. Problem is that my disability is a slight neurological impairment. The key word is "slight". It neither makes me stupid, retarted or "slow" but does effect my short term memory to a degree.
Thing is, it's not bad enough for most options. In fact, my dad had to pull out all the paperwork from my last tests and a bunch of other crap to convince them to keep me on my parents plan. They did agree, finally.
But it's all BS. Everyone is entitled to free healthcare. There is no reason the USA can't do it. None.
Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:20 am
by sad jazz cantaloupe
no you still don't understand what words mean
try it like this: "not getting cancer is an incentive to drink beer"
the fact that you were able to reword it to something that made sense proves that you understood what the words meant.
Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 5:38 am
by Gecko
no you still don't understand what words mean
try it like this: "not getting cancer is an incentive to drink beer"
the fact that you were able to reword it to something that made sense proves that you understood what the words meant.
Sir emotion music fruit, you appear to be unable to discern the meaning of 'incentive.' I hereby cease to participate in this discussion, as the meaning of the aforementioned word has been made abundantly clear, and you persistently continue to ignore it.
As I have no wish to further contribute to this strain of conversation, I bid you farewell, good sir.
Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 8:09 am
by Muninn
I've not been following this entire US health care debate as closely as some people here seem to have been, but did some people really think Stephen Hawking wasn't British?