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Rejection of childrens literature for art gallery nudity

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:20 pm
by Gizensha
Just posting this here because I find it amusing in the context of another thread on this forum :)
US Publisher Turns away from Cartoon Nudity

By Franziska Bossy and Elke Schmitter

The drawings are harmless really. But a US publisher has decided not to publish a series by children's book author Rotraut Susanne Berner. The problem? Cartoon breasts and a half-millimeter-long willy.

It is rare that a German book generates any interest in the United States. And children's books are usually completely off the radar. The delight was thus all the greater at the Hildesheimer Gerstenberg publishing house when a query came in from the American children's book purveyor Boyds Mills Press for a series by Rotraut Susanne Berner.

"It was really a sensation," Berner told SPIEGEL ONLINE. At first. As it turned out, there were a couple of changes that had to be made before the books could be unleashed on the America public. First off, smokers had to be removed from the illustrations. But that wasn't all. One image shows a scene from an art gallery -- and for realism's sake, there is a cartoonish nude hanging on the wall along with a tiny, seven-millimeter-tall statue of a naked man on a pedestal.

American kiddies, obviously, could never be expected to handle such a depiction of the human body. The US publisher, somewhat awkwardly, asked if they could be removed.

The author, not surprisingly, considers the request to be absurd. The statue's mini-willy, the author points out, is hardly even a half-millimeter long. And the naked woman hanging on the wall? Hardly a realistic depiction of the female anatomy. The US publisher, says Berner, was embarrassed to ask for the changes, but they were even more afraid of how American mommies and daddies might react if junior were exposed to such pornography.

For the author, any kind of self-censorship was completely out of the question. She said she could maybe have lived with putting black bars in front of the problem spots, but "invisible censorship" was out. "If you're going to censor something, then the reader should be aware of it," she told SPIEGEL ONLINE.

But the US publisher would have none of it -- after all, one hardly wants to call attention to one's own deletions. Meaning, that the Hildesheimer publishing house will have to forego the honor of being published in the US -- and American children are safe from shocking German sensibilities.

Many children in the rest of the world, however, have already been exposed. Berner is one of the best-known contemporary children's book authors. And the series, which playfully follows the daily life of children and adults through the four seasons, is already a bestseller in 13 countries from Japan to the Faroe Islands. So far, no other country has been overly concerned about the cartoon boobies and mini-penis, Berner said.
Source: http://www.spiegel.de/international/zei ... 56,00.html

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:23 pm
by Loeln
The difference between artful nude, and hot, wet, XXX, action, yo.

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:25 pm
by Mista_B
The only country on earth more sexually repressed than the US is maybe Saudi Arabia.

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:16 pm
by Bocaj Claw
This reminds me of the time when I heard that Where's Waldo was on the banned book list.

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:28 pm
by Loeln
This reminds me of the time when I heard that Where's Waldo was on the banned book list.
One woman on a beach without a bikini top. :O

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 5:56 am
by Caoimhin
I'm wondering how classical style paintings and statues are considered porn :-P . Its rather stupid what kind of outlook we have on this sort of things. My Art teacher in 7th grade showed prints of Picaso paintings, but only the ones she picked out because of nudity in a few of the prints she had. If you're going to do that you might as well not have Health class, which teaches far more graphic things than tasteful nudity. And kids can't handle it? What, are there heads going to explode?
Are they afraid that parents are going to sue them when their kids annoy them with 'whats that?' questions (actually thats exactly it). I don't think its an issue whether or not they can handle it, but rather of afraid and overprotective parents who think a single picture is going to scar them for life (I wonder what happens when kids go on field trips to the Museum of Natural History, or an art museum with Greco-Roman statues? That may be a basis for some unsigned permission slips).

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:46 pm
by Mista_B
I was born naked! :shock:

When I was a babby, I saw my moms breasts! :shock: :shock:

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:57 pm
by Muninn
Isn't America that country where sex is featured and promoted in magazines, advertisements, television, movies, comics and a plethora of other places?

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:11 pm
by Loeln
Isn't America that country where sex is featured and promoted in magazines, advertisements, television, movies, comics and a plethora of other places?
People need to stop paying entirely too much attention to "concerned parent" groups. :|

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:26 pm
by Muninn
But Loeln, won't you please think about the children?

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:01 pm
by Chris
So if someone make something like this:
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It would be considered as porn by the americans?..

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:19 pm
by Caoimhin
Apparently yes. Thats a beautiful sculpture actually... Anyway, Jack made a good point, any little kid can see a Tag or Axe commercial and see something a lot more evocative, despite no nudity. The statue is rather harmless and its not as if anything is jiggling ( as in the case of some of the commercials).

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:20 pm
by Angstwolf
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b& lawl

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:10 pm
by Lig
Well to some right wing Americans. I mean hell. These people want kids educated. Come on it's just a lil cartoony drawing. I bet if Mecholangelo's David was on Display at your museum you'd take the kids to see that for culture reasons. So bite me ya right winged idiots. To them I say this. You need to get to things. A life. And get laid. Odds are thats why your so repressed. Let loose if only for 20 minutes with hooker if thats the best you can do.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:40 pm
by Loeln
The statue is rather harmless and its not as if anything is jiggling ( as in the case of some of the commercials).
But wouldn't it be interesting if there was? :O