UK Pro-Hunt Demonstrators 'Invade' Parliament

[Ozymandias]

There is some ambiguity on whether class is money, which ultimately depends on what money does to someone. I just decided to help clarify boundaries as best as I know how, and it seems that a large part of that is income.<br><br>To check the general stats of your neighbourhood (if that's any help) then what you were looking for on there was <a href='http://www.checkmyfile.com/Guest/neighb ... search.asp' target='_blank'>http://www.checkmyfile.com/Guest/neighb ... rch.asp</a>

[Gizensha]

Oh, I found that. Quite interesting. I'm in a C1/C2 neighbourhood. As for my class... Well.. My father's job can't quite be pinned down (think 'does stuff around the house, for others, helps out in a shop now and then, etc). He used to do other stuff. And my mother is... Um. A retired office cleark who's on the verge of going into part time employment as an office cleark in a far less stressful environment.

[Ozymandias]

Just a little notice to all:<br><br>Hunting looks set to stay for another year whilst it goes through the courts. Make what you will of it.<br><br>Personally, I see it as nothing more than a smart (if cowardly) political move by New Labour. By the time they have to make a decision, it'll be past election time, and will be either in the hands of the next party to deal with or at the beginning of the next innings. Either way, it gets it out of Tony Blair's hair.

[Ozymandias]

Well, the ban comes into effect in a little over an hour, but nevertheless, hunting looks set to <b>legally</b> continue regardless, due to loopholes in the law.<br><br>From what I've heard from the ITV news' examination of the CA's handbook, this is how it'll go:<br><br>Hunting with hounds is illegal. <br>It is not illegal to exercise hounds<br>The fox will be shot at the end of it<br><br>You cannot hunt with more than 2 dogs<br>Packs will be split into 2s with one horse for every two hounds<br><br>This means that the whole hunt can regroup for line hunting afterwards (not something I'm especially happy about, as it seems a little sadistic. Hunting has a purpose; line hunting does not.)<br><br><br>So, it looks like Hunting as we know it will continue, despite government legislation, with only a few minor changes. A victory for the People, I'd like to view it as (I know y'all'll disagree), and I need not say how happy I am that the huntsmen did not lie down and die in the face of adversary. <br><br>(apologies for sounding like a complete prat in the last part. I mostly feel happy that an effective form of pest control shall continue, as well as a part of British heritage, and the way people stood up to the Government was a good reflection on Society as a whole. And no, I am not an Anarchist by trade <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... s/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->)

[Dr. Dos]

in a completely unrealted note your sig rocks.

[Ruedii-X]

<!--QuoteBegin-Ozymandias+Feb 17 2005, 05:48 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Ozymandias @ Feb 17 2005, 05:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> Well, the ban comes into effect in a little over an hour, but nevertheless, hunting looks set to <b>legally</b> continue regardless, due to loopholes in the law.<br><br>From what I've heard from the ITV news' examination of the CA's handbook, this is how it'll go:<br><br>Hunting with hounds is illegal. <br>It is not illegal to exercise hounds<br>The fox will be shot at the end of it<br><br>You cannot hunt with more than 2 dogs<br>Packs will be split into 2s with one horse for every two hounds<br><br>This means that the whole hunt can regroup for line hunting afterwards (not something I'm especially happy about, as it seems a little sadistic. Hunting has a purpose; line hunting does not.)<br><br><br>So, it looks like Hunting as we know it will continue, despite government legislation, with only a few minor changes. A victory for the People, I'd like to view it as (I know y'all'll disagree), and I need not say how happy I am that the huntsmen did not lie down and die in the face of adversary. <br><br>(apologies for sounding like a complete prat in the last part. I mostly feel happy that an effective form of pest control shall continue, as well as a part of British heritage, and the way people stood up to the Government was a good reflection on Society as a whole. And no, I am not an Anarchist by trade <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... s/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>I just don't see foxs as a pest so much. They can easily be kept away with an electric fence, and they kill rats, moles and other vermin.<br><br>However, as an exercise of tradition I can understand if it is properly regulated.

[Muninn]

I just don't see foxes agreeing with this tradition, has anyone consulted their opinion.

[Zaaphod]

What do they do with the foxes once they catch them? Food? Fur? Killing them for the "sport" of it?

[Ozymandias]

Give the carcass to the dogs.<br><br>I can think of only one reason (well, OK, 2 but it's not a real one; or at least, you won't accept that it is, which is OK) why they do this: to keep the dogs eager to find and flush out foxes.

[GhostWay]

Hm. Circular logic. Lovely.

[Ruedii-X]

<!--QuoteBegin-Jacob+Feb 19 2005, 11:52 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Jacob @ Feb 19 2005, 11:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> I just don't see foxes agreeing with this tradition, has anyone consulted their opinion. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> Yes, you have a very valid point.<br><br>One has to be tolerant of those who don't agree with they're beliefs in this world, unless those oposing beliefs are a danger to society.