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Posted: **Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:38 pm**

I decided I'd create some cryptograms for anyone interested. A bit of mental exercise. For each cryptogram, I'll give a minor hint and a time limit of 3 days. If, by the end of 3 days it is not solved, I will reveal the solution. I'll start off with an easy one. CRYPTO 1 (solved): <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>CODE </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'>Cbyvgvpf vf gur fxvyyrq hfr bs oyhag bowrpgf.</td></tr></table>  HINT: Rotate 13. Ceaser. Set of all letters. Write only half, then write the other. Swap. HINT:  <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>CODE </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'> 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26</td></tr></table>  HINT: A=1, B=2, C=3, D=4 ... X=24, Y=25, Z=26 CRYPTO 2 (SOLVED): <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>CODE </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'>IHHSTETTEAYHNTSFTOESHNAKUSTEOLIIUOETLLTDPNTTLSDAD</td></tr></table>  HINT: Forget substitution from before. Words are written one-dimensionally. This message is not. Think inside the box. HINT 2: Caesar was said to have a box A square that sets a message free What is blurred becomes clear Seven is his cryptic key HINT 3: I assume by your inactivity, That you have not a clue, But this is why I am here, Right now, I shall help you. This is quite simple to read, Once you see false as true, It is written with an error, Left is Down and Old is New. Do not read it as it is, Width and height give a view, They must both be equal, And then the words be true. CRYPTO 3 (solved):  <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>CODE </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'>GUBVGRSVUBFARZVZNPGAABPZGPBNQFHVJHSGFGYGUEGHGQGNVFREBVGGPZAROSBR</td></tr></table>  HINT: Use that which you already know. Not all solutions are immediate. A dead end may only be the beginning. CRYPTO 4:  <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>CODE </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'>Kikabv uiiea, ymb jslkwap aa jgzb avqwzbkbffo.</td></tr></table>  HINT: A more difficult puzzle is now presented. "SIX" is the key.

Posted: **Mon Nov 15, 2004 11:20 pm**

I caught the ROT13 in your opening post here. It was really small. Anyhaw, sounds like a good game. I'll partake <img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... /smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />

Posted: **Tue Nov 16, 2004 11:18 am**

Bit too hard for me, but I'll still watch.

Posted: **Tue Nov 16, 2004 6:54 pm**

I think I'm making progress. The Caesar thing was a big help, if I'm right in what I'm doing

Posted: **Tue Nov 16, 2004 9:40 pm**

Belgium. I botched the hint. Sorry. Anyways, here's a better hint:  <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>CODE </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'> 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 </td></tr></table>

Posted: **Wed Nov 17, 2004 4:49 pm**

Another hint:  <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>CODE </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'> A=1, B=2, C=3, D=4 ... X=24, Y=25, Z=26</td></tr></table>

Posted: **Wed Nov 17, 2004 5:39 pm**

Got it! A=N, B=O, C=P . . . X=K, Y=L, Z=M Answer: "Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects." BTW, how'd you make that quote box say "CODE" instead of "QUOTE"?

Posted: **Wed Nov 17, 2004 5:52 pm**

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>CODE </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'>Beats the heck outta me how he did that.

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Posted: **Wed Nov 17, 2004 6:52 pm**

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'>Quote: (Octan @ Nov 17 2004, 12:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> Got it! A=N, B=O, C=P . . . X=K, Y=L, Z=M Answer: "Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects." BTW, how'd you make that quote box say "CODE" instead of "QUOTE"?</td></tr></table>  That is indeed correct. That quote was said by Lester B. Pearson. That method is known as ROT13, because each letter is shifted "up" 13 places. Easiest way to solve this is to write the shifted alphabet under the unshifted alphabet.  <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>CODE </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'>A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z A B C D E F G H I J K L M</td></tr></table>  This method was originally created by Julius Caeser to protect important messages from being intercepted. It has spun off several variations over the years. As for the CODE box, either click the "CODE" button (next to "QUOTE") while replying or simly replace "QUOTE" with "CODE". CODE boxes are useful because everything is monospaced and tags are ignored. Example:  <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>CODE </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'>This is NOT bold.</td></tr></table>  Be back in a few minutes with a fresh challenge.

Posted: **Wed Nov 17, 2004 7:38 pm**

Crypto #2  <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>CODE </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'>IHHSTETTEAYHNTSFTOESHNAKUSTEOLIIUOETLLTDPNTTLSDAD</td></tr></table>  HINT: Forget substitution from before. Words are written one-dimensionally. This message is not. Think inside the box. HINT 2: Caesar was said to have a box A square that sets a message free What is blurred becomes clear Seven is his cryptic key HINT 3: I assume by your inactivity, That you have not a clue, But this is why I am here, Right now, I shall help you. This is quite simple to read, Once you see false as true, It is written with an error, Left is Down and Old is New. Do not read it as it is, Width and height give a view, They must both be equal, And then the words be true.

Posted: **Fri Nov 19, 2004 10:36 pm**

I know what you're on about - it was the Caesar thing I tried last time. Be with you in a sec. EDIT: Ah, that's very true: It's not the fall that kills you, its the sudden stop at the end: (Read Down)

Posted: **Sat Nov 20, 2004 5:55 am**

Yep, that's correct. This method is called the "Caesar Box", and it only works if the lenght of the message is a perfect square (1, 4, 9, 16, 25, etc). Also, the method in the first puzzle is also known as a "Caeser Shift". And that quote is by Douglas Adams. Crypto 3:  <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>CODE </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'>GUBVGRSVUBFARZVZNPGAABPZGPBNQFHVJHSGFGYGUEGHGQGNVFREBVGGPZAROSBR</td></tr></table>  HINT: Use that which you already know. Not all solutions are immediate. A dead end may only be the beginning.

Posted: **Sat Nov 20, 2004 11:03 pm**

64 letters... GUBVGRSV UBFARZVZ NPGAABPZ GPBNQFHV JHSGFGYG UEGHGQGN VFREBVGG PZAROSBR A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z A B C D E F G H I J K L M T H O I T E F I H O S N E M I M A C T N N O C M T C O A D S U I W U F T S T L T H R T U T D T A I S E R O I T T C M N E B F O E That which occurs most often in nature tends to be most difficult to imitate. Millie teh cocoon!

Posted: **Sun Nov 21, 2004 2:03 am**

Geez, that was fast. The answer is my own observation. Guess I'll have to find something harder. CRYPTO 4:  <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>CODE </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'>Kikabv uiiea, ymb jslkwap aa jgzb avqwzbkbffo.</td></tr></table>  HINT: A more difficult puzzle is now presented. "SIX" is the key.

Posted: **Sun Nov 21, 2004 7:00 pm**

--> Interjection: Look at what today's (21/11/04) main feature is: <a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page' target='_blank'>Ciphers!</a>

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