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Postby hdofu » Sun Mar 07, 2004 4:56 am

I hate processing film. (Admitately, it didn't orginally say mess)
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Postby Doctor Fred » Sun Mar 07, 2004 3:09 pm

I've seen it in your journal. It has a no-no.
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Postby Foxchild » Sun Mar 07, 2004 7:45 pm

nice drawing! that the one you tried to show me on me cell phone? heheh, i know the feeling...
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Postby Henohenomoheji » Sun Mar 07, 2004 7:46 pm

is processing film hard or something?
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Postby hdofu » Sun Mar 07, 2004 8:36 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-FoxChild+Mar 8 2004, 05:45 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (FoxChild @ Mar 8 2004, 05:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> nice drawing! that the one you tried to show me on me cell phone? heheh, i know the feeling... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br>the censoered variation of it,<br><br><!--QuoteBegin--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> </td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> is processing film hard or something?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br><br>Is Ozy and Millie a cool comic strip? <!--emo&B)--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... s/cool.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='cool.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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Postby Burning Sheep Productions » Mon Mar 08, 2004 12:00 am

What do you do to process film?<br>Isn't it just dipping them in water and hanging it up or something?
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Postby Sabre » Mon Mar 08, 2004 12:47 am

I'd rather be a target for archery practice at a summer camp then proccess film all day.

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Postby norsenerd » Mon Mar 08, 2004 2:12 am

ohhh<br>fun! ^.^
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Postby Henohenomoheji » Mon Mar 08, 2004 2:15 am

I dunno, it sounds like the traditional Japanese tea ceremony, requires absolute focus and stuff. a form of meditation. of course, I could be wrong.
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Postby Tavis » Mon Mar 08, 2004 2:21 am

I had done some black and white film developing before, but I haven't developed film since 1998, so I'm sorry if I might have gotten some details wrong. I have to say that film developing can be cause frayed nerves if you're not careful or fully prepared.<br><br>In total darkness, the film must be extracted from its container. In the case of 35mm film, the canister itself has to be broken open with a can opener and put onto a spool that could be immersed. The reel has to be struck underwater to remove air bubbles form the film so that the developer can operate on the entire surface of the film and it has to be stirred so that used developer at the reaction site on the film can be replenished by fresh developer in the agitation. The process itself requires timing and careful control of the temperatures. If the environment is too cold, the chemicals react more slowly and require a longer processing time. It helps to have charts that calculate time based on temperature and developer strength (it is shipped as a strong solution and must be diluted before use), and sometimes a timer can used, while others will have to count out seconds. In processing you can use a light-tight canister for developing the film, or you can simply stay in the darkroom and use an open bowl.<br><br>After the film is developed, you can take the spool of film out or pour the developer aside. Oh, by the way, were you thinking of using the drain? Used developer can be recycled, and in the developing process, it also contains small amounts of silver that was removed from the film, so there are several reasons why the drain is not a good place for it. The film needs to be either hit it with stop chemical (which has a strong ammonia smell) or simply rinsed off so that it does not continue to react with leftover drops of developer. Once the film is cleaned, it has to sit out to dry. Once the developing process is complete, it is safe to expose it to light.<br><br>Professional film processors have it easier. They can use a tape-like tool to pull the leader back out the opening and stick it onto a film processing machine. The machine will pull the film out by the leader, trimming off the canister. By having a better control over the variables concerning temperature and developing time, it makes the process somewhat easier. ultimately, the operator might want to fine-tune the process if he or she knows how much the film was exposed (sunlight or indoors, bright images or dark ones, whether the photographer attempted to "push" the film to a slightly faster ISO setting than its rating) The resulting film would be rinsed and dried before it is ready for print making. Also, before print making (and before the film is cut and returned to the film owner), it can be scanned to make a photo CD and to let another computer determine the ideal print exposure. Nice.

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Postby Zylo » Mon Mar 08, 2004 4:22 am

I'd go nuts processing film all day, so I try to avoid it. I can only imagine the feeling.
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Postby hdofu » Mon Mar 08, 2004 7:20 am

<!--QuoteBegin-Burning Sheep Productions+Mar 8 2004, 10:00 AM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Burning Sheep Productions @ Mar 8 2004, 10:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> What do you do to process film?<br>Isn't it just dipping them in water and hanging it up or something? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> *dips bsp in water and hangs him out to dry*
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Postby Burning Sheep Productions » Tue Mar 09, 2004 11:45 am

I see.
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Postby ShadOtterdan » Tue Mar 09, 2004 8:45 pm

Jeeze, I never knew it was that complicated.
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Postby hdofu » Wed Mar 10, 2004 11:17 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-Tavis+Mar 8 2004, 12:21 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Tavis @ Mar 8 2004, 12:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> Oh, by the way, were you thinking of using the drain? Used developer can be recycled, and in the developing process, it also contains small amounts of silver that was removed from the film, <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> Somewhat true. (we were recyclingf it, but now we just use it diluted (mostly because of a few mixups I'd rather not alk about))
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