Friday, January 18 2008: Visibility

[MandoAndy]

He draws animal characters losing their hair (usually from shaving) in this comic, in guest comics for other strips,and on his Deviant Art page. It isn't that funny of a gag to warrent so much attention. I believe he even drew a picture of some dog he is making a comic book about shaving herself which barely even had a joke. It is beyond a running joke and has made its way into creepy territory.

Hmmmm.... this has every mark of being the beginning of a conspiracy... you sure you're not a dragon?

If you really want to accuse DCS of having some sort of disturbing fetish, surely you could have picked a subject that's slightly less outlandish than "hairless cartoon talking animal people".

That is unless of course this is a dragon conspiracy... in which case, I think your attempted accusation is actually too blasé. A real dragon conspiracy about someone's fetishes should at least include: Whipped cream, Donald Duck's blue hat, the 1967 New York Yankees, and about a gallon of Dr. Pepper.

[Kazapsky]

Oh for the love of ... there's NOTHING WRONG with having unusual tastes. Just let the man draw his strip the way he bloody well wants to.

[Baconsticks]

Oh for the love of ... there's NOTHING WRONG with having unusual tastes. Just let the man draw his strip the way he bloody well wants to.

well then that's no fun for us then.

[gen200]

Seriously, Hanging Tree, It's just a comic strip, nothing to take THAT seriously.

Also, 'yiff' is the fetish, 'furry' is 'fandom'.

[Baconsticks]

Seriously, Hanging Tree, It's just a comic strip, nothing to take THAT seriously.

Also, 'yiff' is the fetish, 'furry' is 'fandom'.

there both somewhat interchangeable.

[Hanging Tree]

My post responding to MondAndy seems to have dissapeared. I would blame an internet hiccup except Gen200 appears to be directly responding to it. That leads me to believe that it was deleted. I would like to say that this is not a trolling attempt. This is how I feel on the subject and I would apreciate it if the powers to be would at least give a reason for deleting my posts.


In summery my missing post simply pointed out that the shaving fetish has the makings of being legit when you consider the sum of its part are all fetishes themselves such as furrydom (or yiff to satisfy Gen200) a powerless victim who usually does not want to lose their fur, and complete nudity.

[MandoAndy]

I will, for the time being, consider myself fairly accustomed to the... slightly more strange and off-beat tastes of the furry community. That is to say, I've seen a lot, heard a lot, and had much of it embedded into my dreams at night, quite against my own will.

There are many, many, many different types of fetishes out there... but I gotta say, I've never heard of one that involves forcing the little creates to lose their fur... and believe me when I say I've heard it all. It sorta seems like a stretch, to me.

I guess I can understand your train of logic, but I can't help but defend DC on this subject. I feel very, very strongly that there is no secret sexual connotations in any of his work. I don't think a running gag involving poor Ozy getting his hair shaved off is anything less than what it appears to be. A running gag. I really think you're reading WAY too much into this thing.

And by the way -- if your post did get deleted, I'm sorry. I know you're not trying to troll the message boards or anything. Remember though, this is a DCS fan board, meaning most of us will be fans of him and his work, so really harsh (and pretty insulting) accusations targeted at him will most likely be received poorly.

[Baconsticks]

And by the way -- if your post did get deleted, I'm sorry. I know you're not trying to troll the message boards or anything. Remember though, this is a DCS fan board, meaning most of us will be fans of him and his work, so really harsh (and pretty insulting) accusations targeted at him will most likely be received poorly.

It's always good to show your love and support for something by bashing it, why should this be a expection?

[Tom Flapwell]

The most damning evidence of the above prior to this story arc is this strip and its followup, where Sorkowitz literally blows off Ms. Mudd's and Llewellyn's concerns.

I don't consider any O&M strip from 1999 to be canon anymore, and I think DCS would appreciate that. The comic has changed a lot in the interim, much as he has (nearly half-again as old as he was then).

[Muninn]

Ozy's just so calm and accepting about it nowadays usually that it's hard for me to see him being against losing his fur. It's more some people who're (I believe on purpose) blowing it out of proportion - by equating it with a fetish - that are complaining about it.

[Hanging Tree]

I will, for the time being, consider myself fairly accustomed to the... slightly more strange and off-beat tastes of the furry community. That is to say, I've seen a lot, heard a lot, and had much of it embedded into my dreams at night, quite against my own will.

There are many, many, many different types of fetishes out there... but I gotta say, I've never heard of one that involves forcing the little creates to lose their fur... and believe me when I say I've heard it all. It sorta seems like a stretch, to me.

I guess I can understand your train of logic, but I can't help but defend DC on this subject. I feel very, very strongly that there is no secret sexual connotations in any of his work. I don't think a running gag involving poor Ozy getting his hair shaved off is anything less than what it appears to be. A running gag. I really think you're reading WAY too much into this thing.

Considering some of the oddball fetishes out there like people who are attracted to balloons or seeing woman crush things I think the shaving fetish is a little more logical. It contains elements of voyuerism (you aren't suppose to see what is under the fur) and one person having control over the other (when one is foricbly shaved or made to lose his or her hair. Combine that with being attracted to animals and you have a shaving fetish. It isn't something that is common but seems to be a combination of other fetishes.

Now if the fur losing was present in only Ozy and Millie you would have a good arguement but he has drawing in his deviant art on the subject, drew a guest comic where it happened, and drew that one dog character he came up with shaved. Its alot of shaving in alot of sources for it to all be one running gag.

[Cosmic^Chicory]

Haha wow, you're taking it way more seriously than it needs to be.

*ahem (scholarly tone) ahem*

I think it's much more likely that he has a 'Tophat' fetish - Ozy wears it almost every strip. Sometimes, he takes it off, and you can see *under* the tophat. It contains elements of voyuerism (you aren't supposed to see what is under the tophat) and one person having control over another (where one is forcible de-hatted or made to lose his or her hat. Combine that with being attracted to animals, and you have a tophat fetish.

By contrast, Millie's head is almost always naked. Naked head!

[Hanging Tree]

I did a quick Google of "shaving fetish" and porn for those who like hairless woman came up. I think it would be a small leap for furrys to to interested in the same thing. I don't feel that I'm making to broad of a leap giving how often the subject comes up in DCS drawings and that they are not confined to only one of his works. If their were multiple stories about Ozy sniffing shoes or wearing bondage gear I would come to the same conclusion that these were DCS's paticular kinks. The fact that he likes something completly bizarre doesn't make it any less of a fetish.

[datherman]

Now if the fur losing was present in only Ozy and Millie you would have a good arguement but he has drawing in his deviant art on the subject, drew a guest comic where it happened, and drew that one dog character he came up with shaved. Its alot of shaving in alot of sources for it to all be one running gag.

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I vaguely remember reading once that the "Raine Dog" one was a commission. Things change when money is on the line. Also, looking at the guest comic he did, but having never read Dandy and Company, my guess is that it was referencing an event that happened in Dandy and Company at some point in the past, meaning there was a precedence to work off of. Again, I could be wrong, and this is just a guess.

Does he draw characters being shaved a bit more often than is probably necessary? Perhaps. But I too think you're blowing it way out of proportion. Just let the guy draw what he wants to draw.

[Cosmic^Chicory]

Heh, if you consider something someone does once or twice a year to be a fetish, you got a pretty warped view of the world.

Me, I put socks on almost every day, for example, is that a fetish? Sometimes I eat fruit, other times, vegetables. Sometimes I even take the stairs instead of the elevator. Once or twice a year, I climb a ladder. Sometimes I write with a black pen, sometimes a blue pen. Sometimes, I even write with a pencil.

I'm one messed up fetishy dude.

*shrug*