5 May 2007: Higher purpose

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Postby CodeCat » Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:26 am

That's not really right/wrong though, that's more taste and opinion.
How is there really a difference, though? There are plenty of people who judge others based on their own values of right and wrong, and also their own tastes. Like the kind of person that says 'Wow you eat THAT stuff? You're weird!'
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Postby Tom Flapwell » Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:42 pm

Remember, it's been said that a child's personality is completely defined by age 4. I'd have to say that what they're told is right in their early years is what they grow up believing.
Introspection tells me that this is not always true.
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Postby Richard K Niner » Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:46 pm

Introspection says a lot of things, and suffers from the problem that, as an investigative tool, it's quite useless...

And when anyone says that your personality is completely defined by age X, they're lying. The truth is, it's actually that, as your age increases, the harder it gets to change your personality, but it can still happen at any time.

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Postby osprey » Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:10 pm

Which is why I wrote "it has been said".
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Postby Tabris_The_17th » Thu Jun 07, 2007 3:08 am

That's not really right/wrong though, that's more taste and opinion.
How is there really a difference, though? There are plenty of people who judge others based on their own values of right and wrong, and also their own tastes. Like the kind of person that says 'Wow you eat THAT stuff? You're weird!'
But there is a difference. Mainly in context.

"Wow, you eat THAT stuff? You're weird!"
"Wow, you just killed a family of six and make a coat from their body hair? You're weird!"

Obviously one of those doesn't sound right. Right and wrong can't really exist in a situation of basic taste and opinion, like food. Neither person in that situation you created is right or wrong. People just try to incorrectly create senses of right and wrong here. However, I think we can all agree that the murderer in situation #2 is definitely wrong. So yes, I think there is a big difference.
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Postby Muninn » Thu Jun 07, 2007 5:48 am

I can do no wrong, for I do not know what it is.
Remember, it's been said that a child's personality is completely defined by age 4.
I'm almost the opposite of the personality I had when I was around that age apparently.

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Postby Glenn565 » Thu Jun 07, 2007 6:43 am

Remember, it's been said that a child's personality is completely defined by age 4. I'd have to say that what they're told is right in their early years is what they grow up believing.
It's actually 4th grade, not 4 years old.

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Postby Bocaj Claw » Thu Jun 07, 2007 6:44 am

Up until senior year of high school I was a very introverted and serious person. I changed to become less serious. And in my freshman year of college thanks to the efforts of my college friends, damn and bless their souls, I've become almost entirely unantisocial and a much sillier person.

Personality flop.
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Postby CodeCat » Thu Jun 07, 2007 10:13 am

Neither person in that situation you created is right or wrong. People just try to incorrectly create senses of right and wrong here. However, I think we can all agree that the murderer in situation #2 is definitely wrong. So yes, I think there is a big difference.
We can all agree, but that doesn't mean everyone does. All it takes is one out of 6 billion people to disagree, and down it goes.
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Postby gforce422 » Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:44 pm

Up until senior year of high school I was a very introverted and serious person.
Bocaj? SERIOUS?!?!?!


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Postby hay » Fri Jun 08, 2007 2:18 am

Once and a while you will meet someone that will completely change the way you think and act.

I think that a person is more malleable when they are under 4, but not set in stone. Like, Molten steel becoming hard. I can still beat it with a hammer. In a metaphorical sense.
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Postby Tabris_The_17th » Fri Jun 08, 2007 2:22 am

Neither person in that situation you created is right or wrong. People just try to incorrectly create senses of right and wrong here. However, I think we can all agree that the murderer in situation #2 is definitely wrong. So yes, I think there is a big difference.
We can all agree, but that doesn't mean everyone does. All it takes is one out of 6 billion people to disagree, and down it goes.
In the end, I really think this is one of those things you really can't make here or there. It'll just be left to discussion for ages and ages.
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Postby drgold » Fri Jun 08, 2007 6:26 am

One thing to be careful of, though, is reaching conclusions like: "There's no such thing as an objective 'right' or 'wrong' -- therefore, it's wrong to force your own ideas of 'right' and 'wrong' on others." (This doesn't really follow if in fact *nothing* is objectively 'wrong'.)

Not that anyone here is making this argument--just saying, since it seems like similar arguments often get made by defenders of moral relativism.

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Postby Bocaj Claw » Fri Jun 08, 2007 8:58 am

Up until senior year of high school I was a very introverted and serious person.
Bocaj? SERIOUS?!?!?!


*snrrkkk* mmmmph....... WAHAHAHAHAHAHA! *snort* :lol:





Whoops, was that out loud?
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Postby gforce422 » Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:08 am

Up until senior year of high school I was a very introverted and serious person.
Bocaj? SERIOUS?!?!?!


*snrrkkk* mmmmph....... WAHAHAHAHAHAHA! *snort* :lol:





Whoops, was that out loud?
Fetid nostril of walrus! May you live in interesting times!




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gforce422 is awesome because:
-He made the absolute nicest comments about me in the other topic. I didn't respond to them yet, because I suck, but they are greatly appreciated! =D
-I would say he would also be a good runner up as one of the nicest people alive.
-He joined the IRC sometimes. But not enough, I say! Chat moar =D
-He is evidently only 18 year old but he could easily pass for 25. =D
-He is a drummer like *I* am and this in itself is cool.
Astro> gforce's smiles can cure cancer in kittens
Astro> the happiness radiating from your person is enough to solve tensor calculus
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