Fallacious T: 19 January 2007

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Postby Tom Flapwell » Fri Jan 19, 2007 8:14 pm

Just see how frustrated Calvin gets when he starts losing to Hobbes. Just see his readiness to change and bend the rules to his momentary advantage. I related quite well.

"Come on, it's just a game."
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Postby BlackMako85 » Fri Jan 19, 2007 8:54 pm

If anything is Zen, it's children. They don't care about winning or losing, good or bad, they just have fun. :)
WHAT?! I dunno what fantasy world you're living in; but us humans aren't like that. Kids are just as obsessed about winning, if not moreso than adults. ;x
I'll agree with you on that one; I was more competitive when I was a lad than I am now.<
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Postby Angstwolf » Fri Jan 19, 2007 9:10 pm

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Postby Arloest » Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:15 am

Well, whatever. I was extremely competitive as a child, and I still am now.
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Postby Fritz » Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:30 am

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Postby Thay » Sat Jan 20, 2007 10:32 am

I was a bit of a Timulty when I was younger and to be honest, I still am. These days I tend to strive for exact draws and that's actually even more difficult than an outright win (to pull off convincingly) but that's what I do because I like the outcome and I enjoy myself. Even when I'm playing something like an FPS game I'll have this attitude and it's pretty much because I feel that winning or losing can sometimes bring out the worst in people but nobody seems to feel bad about a draw.

If I win in a game it's very often that an unsporting sort will make accusations about cheating and cast aspersions about my Mother, if I lose then I'll get my nose rubbed in it about how good they are. Neither of these things seems to happen with a very equal game, so I'm happy to perpetrate that.

So if you ever find anyone in an FPS game or similar online whom you happen to find yourself in a constant tie with, that just might be me. At least, when I'm skillful enough not to outright lose.D

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Postby The Donmeister » Sun Jan 21, 2007 12:04 am

When I was a child, I was more competitive than anyone else here!

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Postby dfeuer » Sun Jan 21, 2007 6:27 am

Last panelI still don't see where an inductive argument, fallacious or otherwise, shows up in the strip. Could someone help me out with that?

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Postby The Donmeister » Sun Jan 21, 2007 7:21 am

Re: Last panel
I still don't see where an inductive argument, fallacious or otherwise, shows up in the strip. Could someone help me out with that?

David
Since most people who play tag are not "it", then it's unlikely that Ozy will be "it". By a process of elimination, Millie must be "it". That's the inductive argument.(

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Postby Svix » Sun Jan 21, 2007 3:24 pm

I see the first panel in the strip as a function, where the domain is it and the range is tag.

However, since it is not isolated to one value (different people can be it) and the function f(tag)=(+/-)it is a many-to-one function, there is not an inverse, so 'we are playing tag, therefore, you're it' is false. It's like saying 2=√x^2 so x = 2 only when x can also = -2.

Yes I have just done a maths exam and this was unneccessary.0

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Postby The Donmeister » Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:38 am

I see the first panel in the strip as a function, where the domain is it and the range is tag.

However, since it is not isolated to one value (different people can be it) and the function f(tag)=(+/-)it is a many-to-one function, there is not an inverse, so 'we are playing tag, therefore, you're it' is false. It's like saying 2=√x^2 so x = 2 only when x can also = -2.

Yes I have just done a maths exam and this was unneccessary.
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Postby Rymn_the_Silver_Wolfe » Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:40 am

I see the first panel in the strip as a function, where the domain is it and the range is tag.

However, since it is not isolated to one value (different people can be it) and the function f(tag)=(+/-)it is a many-to-one function, there is not an inverse, so 'we are playing tag, therefore, you're it' is false. It's like saying 2=√x^2 so x = 2 only when x can also = -2.

Yes I have just done a maths exam and this was unneccessary.
Hooray for math and physics!

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Postby dcsimpson » Mon Jan 22, 2007 8:10 pm

I never thought I'd hear Ozy or Millie utter the phrase "Oh snap!"..........my outlook on life is now horribly skewed.
I actually debated whether to use it...but nothing else seemed as funny.

And, I've been fascinated with the etymology of the phrase ever since I learned that its origins are in the song "Just A Friend" by 80s rapper Biz Markie.

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Postby Tom Flapwell » Mon Jan 22, 2007 9:55 pm

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if Millie said, "Embleer hraka!" Well, except that I said it before she did.
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Postby Zaaphod » Tue Jan 23, 2007 12:25 am

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if Millie said, "Embleer hraka!"
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