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Just thinking how cool it might have been to have O&M as a Saturday Morning Cartoon.... *Sighs and keeps dreaming*

Perhaps it's because of Ozy and Millie's general tone but the idea seems too unwieldy to me.

Ive seen worse make it to S.M.C. status:

Garfield & Friends
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles- early 90s
Captain N & The Gamemsasters
etc

I think too many of the concepts Ozy and Millie discuss would go right over the younger kids heads. Before you could truely make it into a Saturday morning cartoon, you'd have to alter the general tone of the strip, and I don't think anyone really wants that.

well, there is that animated OM project. I think it died? or, it died but then other people took it under them

well, there is that animated OM project. I think it died? or, it died but then other people took it under them

No it died. Most of us were leaning on Andy to lead it, but when a family member of his fell ill, he left with no word. Also our main problem was lack of animators. Too many people wanted to help, but not enough had the skill to do it. MandoAndy wanted pro voice-talents and animators, which we didn't find. Perhaps one day we'll get it together again, but not for some time I'm thinking.

I really can't see O&M being a Saturday Morning Cartoon. Especially nowadays, with all the crap they put on TV that the little kids watch. I may have watched it when I was little, but I was always more interested in intelligent TV than most my age, they were always caught up in the latest fads like pokemon and whatever else. I think having 5 channels was incredibly beneficial, as the shows on those five channels were usually much more informative that whatever my friends were watching on satellite/cable. Anyway, back on track, so yeah, judging by what most people I know used to watch, it wouldn't fly. Even with enough animators and crew to do it, it would still be incredibly difficult to capture the essence of O&M in cartoon form. It's varies too often, you couldn't make it too zany or too serious or you might ruin it.

Maybe not on television but a few cartoons could possibly be made on the internet, by a crew professional enough. It could be like the Charlie Brown cartoon in the way that it would use material from the comic (with permission of course). I'm just thinking aloud though. I don't expect this to happen anytime soon.

Well... let's think about this.

How much do we, the O&M-loving community, want to make it happen? And how much time, realistically speaking, do we have to make it happen? Those are two of the three bottom lines.

The third is: would Mr Simpson give his blessing to such a project?

The next matter to attend to is how 'professional' it has to look, and how soon you want it to look that way. Everything starts out shakily, from Star Trek to Boston Legal: it takes time for the team to settle in. And this would be a fan production, by fans and largely for fans. It isn't supposed to be 'professional'; it shouldn't be expected that it will be.

Another thing to consider are the shortcuts we could take. Every company takes them. Consider:

* Tom and Jerry used pre-painted backgrounds and animated only the characters

* Hanna-Barbera and many other animation houses drew backgrounds and pose cels for the characters and animated only the parts that needed to move

* Almost every TV or film uses whatever stock footage it can, and re-uses effects work and audio cues where possible

There are always ways around problems. For instance, to save effort animating someone's mouth, you can see them doing something else, or 'film' them from behind while they talk, or film the other person's reaction.

This raises the next question of how accurately you want to take the strip and make it into footage. Is it going to be 100%, true-blue true to the original? Or is it going to take the original but translate it into an animated form?

My apologies for rambling and bringing up all these things that have, probably, already been discussed to death. But I have a little experience as a manager of things, and some experience in film, theatre and audio production, and... ehh. It is a bad habit of this old dragon to stick his muzzle in. Sorry.

Ozy and Millie probably could definitely never work as a kids' cartoon because it's designed for way too intelligent an audience. (And the gap widens dramatically with every new series that Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon pull out their butts.)

It might, possibly, work as an adult cartoon of the Fox Sunday or Adult Swim variety. But even those are getting really stupid lately. (Adult Swim moreso than Fox.) I think the best bet, actually, would be to (A) dumb it down a scoch (naturally), and then (2) try to get it established on another network where there's no precedent, possibly paired up with another "adult cartoon" of roughly the same caliber.

Another problem is that DCS says he has trouble writing long stories. I can scarcely imagine how he'd fill two 10-minute episodes.

I think the storyline where Locke takes over Greater Llewellynland could fill an episode. The problem is that there's only so many storylines that long.

it's designed for way too intelligent an audience.

None of whom come here. D:

Ozy and Millie works for what it is. Why change what isn't broken eh? EH?!

Just dropping into tis convo, since I was probably one of the ones who made the biggest fuss about an Animated Ozy and Millie show.

Like Tum0 said, there was an effort a while back, made by a one MandoAndy, to make Ozy And Millie animated, by the fans, for the fans. However, the project proved just a little too ambitious when certain aspects came up, such as voice actors, animators, and storylines to a point.

However, the project did get enough publicity, that is was created as a subforum on another board for a time, and then gained it's very own board ((the link of which, is still in my Sig, kinda shows my still everwishing nature))

Now, from what I can remember *opens about a thousand tabs to skim stuff over*

we did, in fact, get somewhat far into the first ep. True, we were all waiting on Mando to lead the project, which may have been one of the faults. Either way, we did get DC's approval for it, which was on her Livejournal for a time. We had decided to have them be five minute eps, and had a list of project goals to do for them.

And we did find voices of fans that we felt would work well for the characters. I myself as Jeremy and Larnblatt, Tum0 as Llewellyn, and Mando as Ozy. Yet we severly lacked female voices, and we lacked true organization.

But, we did manage to churn out a first basic storyline, the likes of which can be found here: http://www.savefile.com/files2.php?fid= ... key=929575

But, that's ads far as we got before the problems arose and the idea died. Personally, I still have that faint glimmer of hope, but unless some big time Animator joins the board, I doubt we may get any farther.

It might, possibly, work as an adult cartoon of the Fox Sunday or Adult Swim variety. But even those are getting really stupid lately. (Adult Swim moreso than Fox.) I think the best bet, actually, would be to (A) dumb it down a scoch (naturally), and then (2) try to get it established on another network where there's no precedent, possibly paired up with another "adult cartoon" of roughly the same caliber.

I disagree. While Ozy and Millie isn't "childish" enough to necessarily work as a Saturday morning cartoon, I don't think it's "adult" enough to work within those two programing blocks either. Therein lies the main problem with making OM an animated property. Since it speaks to such a specific kind of audience, it really can't work in those broader ranges without certainly sacrificing what truely makes it special. Making it a webtoon of sorts could be done since the format allows it to retain the character's form and style without trying to cater to a wide margin of viewers.