Ozy, Millie, and Everything

[Novil Ariandis]

I've read all strips until June 2000 now. That means that there are more than a thousand left to read and I'm really glad about that <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... /smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->.<br><br>In my <a href='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... topic=2573' target='_blank'>introduction</a> thread I mentioned that "Ozy and Millie" is not as great as "Calvin and Hobbes" and I still stick to that. On the other hand, I don't really see that much of a difference most of the time. Looking at <a href='http://www.ozyandmillie.net/1999/om19990730.html' target='_blank'>this</a> strip, or <a href='http://www.ozyandmillie.net/1999/om19990930.html' target='_blank'>this</a> or <a href='http://www.ozyandmillie.net/1999/om19991001.html' target='_blank'>that</a> or at my <a href='http://www.ozyandmillie.net/2003/om20030825.html' target='_blank'>favourite strip</a> so far (the waffle one, of course <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... s/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->), I just have to say that these strips are nearly perfect. Actually so good that I would only consider one handful of Bill Watterson's masterpieces as *better* if there exists an appropriate measurement for comic strips of some sort. But this is just my opinion.<br><br>Now, after that big compliment to David Simpson, I just want to say, that there are also some things, that I don't like that much about "Ozy and Millie" (Shock!) The first and most important one is, that I don't really like the political comics. On the one hand, I don't think they fit very well into the scenario and second, equally important, I am not an American. There was a joke about Newt Gingrich, but I really didn't understand the joke because I had no glue, who Newt Grinnich was, except that he was an important American politician. Having to ask Google about the concerning person to get the joke is not really satisfying. So I generally don't like it when comic strips deal with persons or events, that are not well-known around the globe. I am sure nobody of you would get a joke about infamous Bavarian secretary of the Interior Günther Beckstein or German showmaster Jürgen von der Lippe.<br><br>Having read some of the newer strips, I also have to say, that I like the visual appearance of the characters the most shortly after the relaunch in May 2000. The characters looked more "realistic" and were kind of cuter then than they now are and I prefer cute animal characters to not so cute ones <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... s/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->. I know, that David is not really fond of criticism but I think that there is nothing wrong about it to express one's opinion if one stays polite.<br><br>Today, I've also written an <a href='http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozy_and_Millie' target='_blank'>article</a> about Ozy and Millie on the German version of the Wikipedia. I doubt, that anybody here is able to understand it, but I think the quality of the article is not bad compared to the articles for most of the other webcomics. On the other hand, the section with the character descriptions needs a complete overhaul. I've read only one third of all the strips, so even if the section was better written it still can't be complete in any way. I don't like the concept of the Wikipedia that much and some of the admins are morons (some weird sort of crossover between Jeremy and Stephan), but I understand that it's read by many people, so I guessed to write an article about it is a good way that "Ozy and Millie" gets at least a little bit more attention in Germany.<br><br>I also think about it to buy one/some Ozy and Millie originals, but haven't decided yet. Obviously I will make that decision at the earliest when I will have read all the strips and, of course, it will depend heavily on the fact, what is still available. In that respect I want to point at the <a href='http://cgi.ebay.com/Calvin-Hobbes-poste ... dZViewItem' target='_blank'>ridiculous prices</a> some weirdos (from another planet) are willing to pay for signed Calvin and Hobbes <i>prints</i> at eBay. To spend > 1000 $ seems absolutely inadequate to me for a not original drawing by some quy, even if it's Bill Watterson. 100 $ for an original by David Simpson seems to be cheap that way. Not that I insist to pay more <!--emo&:P--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... tongue.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tongue.gif' /><!--endemo-->.

[Bocaj Claw]

Because I love to play the devil's advocate:<br><br>You have to keep in mind that Simpson is writing from his perspective as an American. He wrote about politics and politicians because, at the time, it was relevant to him. Plus, the comic really isn't <i>that</i> political. Tis more charecter based.

[Richard K Niner]

If you want political, there's IDT now.

[Bocaj Claw]

No. I'm pretty sure you drew that image a while ago.

[Richard K Niner]

What?

[norsenerd]

I apreicate your psot Novil Ariandis. It is very well writen and quite intelegent. I'm glad you apreciate the comic.

[dobbs]

The strips from that era (2000) were quite political. I loved them for it. I'm a bit sad DCS has toned down his commentary, but then I don't find politics all that amusing anymore either...<br><br>Man, what a downer.

[Bocaj Claw]

<!--QuoteBegin-Richard K Niner+Dec 15 2005, 08:53 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Richard K Niner @ Dec 15 2005, 08:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> What? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> You said that theres IDT (I drew this) now as a way to imply that theres a seperate comic for political commentary. I purposefully misinterpreted it to mean that you drew this (your avatar) now.<br><br>Because I'm annoying like that.

[norsenerd]

Cat's can get that way soemtimes. *throws Bocaj Claw down the stairs* There. That shoudl take care fo that problem.

[DHLawrence]

I can't say I miss the politics. When you're surrounded by it every day in the news, you want a break. Especially up here--we've got an election in a month, and the candidate from the None of the Above Party is leading by a mile. Would Llewellyn consider running do you think?

[Bocaj Claw]

<!--QuoteBegin-norsenerd+Dec 15 2005, 10:06 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (norsenerd @ Dec 15 2005, 10:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> Cat's can get that way soemtimes. *throws Bocaj Claw down the stairs* There. That shoudl take care fo that problem. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> Now we (by which I mean "I") have a new problem. My everything hurts now.

[norsenerd]

Shoot. Didn't work.

[Bocaj Claw]

I'm detecting hostility. And possibly a concussion.

[Tom Flapwell]

I don't think DCS minds anyone saying that O&M isn't quite as great as C&H, as long as they don't hammer the point. I also am glad that the politics in O&M have gotten rarer and less direct thanks to IDT.<br><br>One language note: "Inadequate" means too little, not too much. "Extravagant" fits your sentence better.

[Novil Ariandis]

<!--QuoteBegin--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> </td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> I apreicate your psot Novil Ariandis. It is very well writen and quite intelegent. I'm glad you apreciate the comic.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br><br>Hey, thank you.<br><br><!--QuoteBegin--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> </td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> I don't think DCS minds anyone saying that O&M isn't quite as great as C&H, as long as they don't hammer the point. I also am glad that the politics in O&M have gotten rarer and less direct thanks to IDT.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br><br>That's missing the point a little bit. I pointed out, that O&M is nearly as great as C&H. That's another level of quality as saying that O&M is not quite as great as C&H. The second statement applies to [insert mediocre comic strip here] as well, the first one not.<br><br><!--QuoteBegin--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> </td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> One language note: "Inadequate" means too little, not too much. "Extravagant" fits your sentence better.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br><br>Well, perhaps is "unreasonable" better. If not, there is probably just no real equivalent of the German word "unangemessen". At least according to the translations, <a href='http://dict.leo.org/' target='_blank'>Leo</a> proposes.