It seems DCS has been busy after all
Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 10:52 am
Fan forum for Azumanga Daioh and Marty (and O&M to a limited extent)
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What would you rather she do? Continue "Raine Dog"?Yes, busy drawing ponies and other stupid shit.
At least Raine Dog was something original (it sucked, but that's not the point). I'd rather read that than see her getting so into some stupid meme with an art style so nonexistant that everyone and their grandmother can copy it.What would you rather she do? Continue "Raine Dog"?Yes, busy drawing ponies and other stupid shit.
She has been doing ponies but more original stuff as well, such as Claire the skunk. Want to ask her for more O&M pictures then?At least Raine Dog was something original (it sucked, but that's not the point). I'd rather read that than see her getting so into some stupid meme with an art style so nonexistant that everypony and their grandmother can copy it.
You really can't call an entire show a meme. Also, have you actually seen the ponies drawn in other styles? I've seen things that go way off-model, and quite frankly those are the best. It is fanart after all. I think what you truly are sick of, Maggot, is people drawing themselves as ponies in the style of the show, or perhaps those "Hope" poster-types you see all over the place. Considering that was nicked off another guy's design as well, I hardly see that as a reasonable critique. Even if I do disagree with OC characters (they can become a bit much) a ponification of a public figure or as an artist's avatar done for the hell of it, seems harmless.At least Raine Dog was something original (it sucked, but that's not the point). I'd rather read that than see her getting so into some stupid meme with an art style so nonexistant that everypony and their grandmother can copy it.What would you rather she do? Continue "Raine Dog"?Yes, busy drawing ponies and other stupid shit.
That seems to be a recurring problem with DCS's character work in recent years. (S)he seems to have lost all ability to draw expressive faces.But overall I don't like what he has done with them, something about the faces on the mane cast on "I heart ponies" seem off. Especially Twilight's who doesn't seem to be reacting to anything and RD smile looks as if she is being made to smile in front of a camera and she doesn't want to. It just seems so forced. Even Pinkie, the most spontaneous and animated pony seems flat, instead of "HEY YOU!" it comes out as "Ahh." like she is at the doctor's office. Fluttershy, looks more like Eeyor with a wide-eyed expression than a shy meek, "I'm in the limelight, oh my..." one. She is tense and nervous but not in a way that conveys those emotions.
It just alarms me that it's so widespread and borderline obsessive. I don't think anyone expected it to have an audience that was anything more than its intended demographic of 5-12 year old girls. Perhaps I just haven't seen it enough (I've really only seen one episode of it), but I don't understand its wide appeal, and when people talk about "deeper meanings" and stuff in the show it just pisses me off. It's a slightly-superior remake of a show that sucked to begin with. Maybe one of these days I'll give it another chance, but right now it just seems like people only like it for its meme-status.
You really can't call an entire show a meme. Also, have you actually seen the ponies drawn in other styles? I've seen things that go way off-model, and quite frankly those are the best. It is fanart after all. I think what you truly are sick of, Maggot, is people drawing themselves as ponies in the style of the show, or perhaps those "Hope" poster-types you see all over the place. Considering that was nicked off another guy's design as well, I hardly see that as a reasonable critique. Even if I do disagree with OC characters (they can become a bit much) a ponification of a public figure or as an artist's avatar done for the ponyville of it, seems harmless.
Fair enough. Like I said, the show itself doesn't bother me even though it's not my thing. I just don't like....well, for one, that suddenly the word "ponies" suddenly refers to MLP. It's all of that stuff. Don't mean to sound like I hate EVERY BODY (I hate the "everypony" thing too) who's into it or anything.I understand your position. At this point you'll probably never like the show because of what the fandom has done to people, and that's cool. The only reason why I'm not annoyed by so many people drawing so many people is because I happen to like it (which I never thought I would, by the way, but that says nothing about whether you'll like it). However, I'd probably be super pissed off if, say, people just started drawing Naruto shit all of the sudden. For this I sympathize and apologize.
A lot of the fandom does take things way out of hoof. I mean, I really like the show a lot, more than I'd care to admit, but shoving the show in people's faces all the time is just obnoxious. I realize that my obsession (and a lot of other people's, especially around here lol) is admittedly pretty strange. I personally don't care, but I know others would, so what's the point in going "oh hey, you don't watch ponies?! Here's all 26 episodes go watch now."
I do disagree that the show's style is void of personality, especially in the animation, but to each his own.
E: I will just add that everypony I know who likes the show (a fair few at this point) do not like the show for any kind of meme status, despite what it looks like from the outside.
I hope I didn't sound too confrantational, it wasn't really what I had in mind. But you didn't seem to take it that way, so no harm done. I agree that it has gained an oddly wide appeal, but no one should draw purely for their audience's benefit, they should do it for themselves. Thats why I happen to like ponies drawn in a unique style, even if sometimes the subject matter is something I really don't like, Cartoonlion's for example. He has one SFW picture of the mane cast standing together that is so much more vibrant than DCS's and I love the way he draws mischievious/suggestive Pinky. It seems we can agree. And as the others pointed out, you're probably only seeing what is at the surface, and because of no fault on your part. However, I'd say this show was more of an overhaul than simply a remake.Not to mention that there are so many talented cartoon artists out there who seem to have just abandoned anything original and started churning out generic pony garbage (in fact this thread is good evidence of that). It's kind of depressing to see that happen. As for the part about art styles, I'm sure there is some pony art out there with great style to it. I'm sure some of the artists with more common sense who happen to like the show would lend their own style to it, but it seems the vast majority is merely aping the style that the show is already in, and it's a style so bland and void of personality that it really doesn't take much at all to draw.
You really can't call an entire show a meme. Also, have you actually seen the ponies drawn in other styles? I've seen things that go way off-model, and quite frankly those are the best. It is fanart after all. I think what you truly are sick of, Maggot, is people drawing themselves as ponies in the style of the show, or perhaps those "Hope" poster-types you see all over the place. Considering that was nicked off another guy's design as well, I hardly see that as a reasonable critique. Even if I do disagree with OC characters (they can become a bit much) a ponification of a public figure or as an artist's avatar done for the ponyville of it, seems harmless.
That said, I don't hate the program or its fanbase. I hate the mob-mentality and the cheap knockoffs that have come about.
Wouldn't hang out with them if they weren't, as I know they mean most of it in jest. And yes, Doctor Who is the earthly manifestation of Christ.Your friends seem like classy people.