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Postby Doc Sigma » Wed Aug 12, 2009 1:53 pm

This Friday I am having surgery to remove my tonsils, which are currently obstructing 50% of my airway, and to fix my deviated septum, which is obstructing another 25% of my airway. Now, I could keep on living without getting this fixed, but a 75% increase in my oxygen levels will SIGNIFICANTLY improve my quality of life.

Would government insurance cover this? On the one hand, it's not technically life-threatening... on the other hand, I'll have less health problems down the road and therefore I'll cost them less money.

Thoughts?

(My private insurance is covering it 100%.)

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Postby Rooster » Wed Aug 12, 2009 1:59 pm

Well, I'm just off to the doctors to have my ear-infectuion examined for free.

God bless Socialism! :wag:

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Postby Foxchild » Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:37 pm

This Friday I am having surgery to remove my tonsils, which are currently obstructing 50% of my airway, and to fix my deviated septum, which is obstructing another 25% of my airway. Now, I could keep on living without getting this fixed, but a 75% increase in my oxygen levels will SIGNIFICANTLY improve my quality of life.

Would government insurance cover this? On the one hand, it's not technically life-threatening... on the other hand, I'll have less health problems down the road and therefore I'll cost them less money.

Thoughts?

(My private insurance is covering it 100%.)
I've no doubt that'd be covered, just don't know what portion of a copay there would be, and there would very likely be a copay.
Well, I'm just off to the doctors to have my ear-infectuion examined for free.

God bless Socialism!
Not free. Paid for already through taxes.
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Postby crabbadon » Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:58 pm

This Friday I am having surgery to remove my tonsils, which are currently obstructing 50% of my airway, and to fix my deviated septum, which is obstructing another 25% of my airway. Now, I could keep on living without getting this fixed, but a 75% increase in my oxygen levels will SIGNIFICANTLY improve my quality of life.

Would government insurance cover this? On the one hand, it's not technically life-threatening... on the other hand, I'll have less health problems down the road and therefore I'll cost them less money.

Thoughts?

(My private insurance is covering it 100%.)
Thoughts:
1) That's a 300% increase.
2) I'm fairly sure the NHS would cover that, whatever your plans are in crazy across-the-atlantic-land but I've not had the misfortune to be in a position to find out for sure.

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Postby Doc Sigma » Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:16 pm

This Friday I am having surgery to remove my tonsils, which are currently obstructing 50% of my airway, and to fix my deviated septum, which is obstructing another 25% of my airway. Now, I could keep on living without getting this fixed, but a 75% increase in my oxygen levels will SIGNIFICANTLY improve my quality of life.

Would government insurance cover this? On the one hand, it's not technically life-threatening... on the other hand, I'll have less health problems down the road and therefore I'll cost them less money.

Thoughts?

(My private insurance is covering it 100%.)
Thoughts:
1) That's a 300% increase.
2) I'm fairly sure the NHS would cover that, whatever your plans are in crazy across-the-atlantic-land but I've not had the misfortune to be in a position to find out for sure.
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Postby sad jazz cantaloupe » Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:17 pm

Well, I'm just off to the doctors to have my ear-infectuion examined for free.

God bless Socialism!
Not free. Paid for already through taxes.
No, it's free. Taxes are paid whether it's going to be allocated to socialized healthcare, or whether the british government's going to abolish hospitals and health care itself. You are just trying to rain on the parade still because you're still in "argue with Fritz" mode
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Postby Foxchild » Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:27 pm

No, it's free. Taxes are paid whether it's going to be allocated to socialized healthcare, or whether the british government's going to abolish hospitals and health care itself. You are just trying to rain on the parade still because you're still in "argue with Fritz" mode
Quite the contrary, I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade. The money has to come from somewhere. A certain amount of money is allocated to funds for medical expenses, and a portion of everyone's taxes goes into that fund.

Money, despite peoples best efforts, doesn't come from nowhere.

... "Argue with Fritz" mode?
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Postby Arloest » Wed Aug 12, 2009 7:46 pm

Well, as the old economics mantra goes, there's no such thing as a free lunch. So no, it's not 'free', technically, in the sense that nothing is free.

It is free, however, in the sense that there's no immediate or direct payment for the examination, which is undoubtedly a benefit.

I guess it all comes down to whether you are willing to pay an extra tax hike for such a benefit.
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Postby sad jazz cantaloupe » Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:38 pm

No, it's free. Taxes are paid whether it's going to be allocated to socialized healthcare, or whether the british government's going to abolish hospitals and health care itself. You are just trying to rain on the parade still because you're still in "argue with Fritz" mode
Quite the contrary, I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade. The money has to come from somewhere. A certain amount of money is allocated to funds for medical expenses, and a portion of everyone's taxes goes into that fund.

Money, despite peoples best efforts, doesn't come from nowhere.

... "Argue with Fritz" mode?

no no no. my point was that, the past two pages, people have been trying to change the subject out of you just talking about taxes and shit, trying to make the conversation a lot less serious, and your only method of response was to ignore that and go back to politics.

Also what angela said. And I stand by it so don't bother with boring "but that's not true" because a) I know it's not true b) I don't care
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Postby Segovia » Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:20 pm

This Friday I am having surgery to remove my tonsils, which are currently obstructing 50% of my airway, and to fix my deviated septum, which is obstructing another 25% of my airway. Now, I could keep on living without getting this fixed, but a 75% increase in my oxygen levels will SIGNIFICANTLY improve my quality of life.

Would government insurance cover this? On the one hand, it's not technically life-threatening... on the other hand, I'll have less health problems down the road and therefore I'll cost them less money.

Thoughts?

(My private insurance is covering it 100%.)
Welcome to the non tonsil club. Try not to wake up during the operation.

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Postby cougartiger » Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:32 pm

Had my tonsils out when I was 6 or 7. I couldn't talk for a week or so and I ate enough ice cream for my entire school!

BTW, no one liked my snoring Lew post? Just wanted to inject a little humor into the discussion. Or am I on probation for my meltdown last week? Yeah, I'm pretty ashamed about that. :oops:

Back on topic, I have a disability and cannot work full time. Therefore, I am on my parents health plan. In fact, my dad just renewed coverage for me. Point is, I'm kinda worried about what will happen when my parents die. I'll need something so I'm hoping this whole situation gets straightened before that happens.
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Postby Feefers » Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:57 am

This Friday I am having surgery to remove my tonsils
Are you getting your adenoids removed as well?

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Postby Doc Sigma » Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:29 pm

This Friday I am having surgery to remove my tonsils
Are you getting your adenoids removed as well?
Yep. I'm also getting my deviated septum fixed and having my nasal turbinates reduced. And having a small harmless wart removed from my soft palate... which is what I went to the doctor for in the first place, and he just happened to notice all this other stuff that no other doctor had noticed!

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Postby IceDragon » Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:46 am

I think that if health care was affordable for everyone, people would take more preventative care, and thus trips to the ER would drop, and I feel costs would decrease. Preventive maintenance is always cheaper than emergency repair.

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Postby sad jazz cantaloupe » Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:38 pm

yes there is. Scientists are working on modifying the ingredients of beer to make beer have the same cancer-preventing chemical that is found in red wine. So, drinking beer is the incentive to not get cancer.
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