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New proposed Utah miscarriage law

Postby Muninn » Tue Mar 02, 2010 6:42 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 13019.html
A proposed Utah law that would open women who suffer a miscarriage to possible criminal prosecution and life imprisonment has enraged feminists and civil rights activists across the United States.

Adopted overwhelmingly by both sides of the state legislature in Salt Lake City earlier this month, the draft bill is now awaiting the signature of the state's Republican Governor, Gary Herbert. It is not clear if the growing national controversy surrounding the proposed law will slow or even stay his pen.

While the main thrust of the law is to enable prosecutors in the majority-Mormon state to pursue women who seek illegal, unsupervised forms of abortion, it includes a provision that could trigger murder charges against women found guilty of an "intentional, knowing or reckless act" that leads to a miscarriage. Some say this could include drinking one glass of wine too many, walking on an icy pavement or skiing.

Lawmakers were responding to the case of a 17-year-old pregnant Utah woman who paid a man $150 to assault her physically in the hope that the beating would cause her to miscarry. The child was born anyway and put up for adoption. And while the man involved is currently behind bars, prosecutors found they had no basis in state law to prosecute the young woman. She was in her seventh month when she tried to terminate her pregnancy.

Last-minute efforts to remove reference in the bill to "reckless" acts failed, feeding the uproar about a law that some people say would be impossible to implement and threatens basic freedoms of women. Statistics suggest that 15 to 20 per cent of recognised pregnancies end in miscarriage. "This creates a law that makes any pregnant woman who has a miscarriage potentially criminally liable for murder," said Missy Bird, director of Planned Parenthood Action Fund of Utah, part of the national organisation that champions abortion rights.

Critics also note that the bill has no exemptions for women who suffer domestic abuse or who have addiction problems. They wonder, for example, about the putative case of a woman remaining with an abusive partner and suffering a miscarriage after an episode of violence. Would remaining in that relationship constitute "reckless" behaviour, they ask?

Abortion remains deeply contentious in the United States, where, with some restrictions, it has been legal under the terms of the landmark Roe v Wade ruling by the Supreme Court of 1973. The issue returned to the front pages last month when Scott Roeder was tried and convicted for the murder in Kansas last August of one of the few doctors legally providing late-term abortions in the country.

The reaction to Utah's new initiative has verged in most quarters on disbelief, however. "For all these years the anti-choice movement has said 'we want to outlaw abortion, not put women in jail', but what this law says is 'no, we really want to put women in jail'," Lynn Paltrow, executive director of National Advocates for Pregnant Women, wrote in a blog.

Similarly astonished is the syndicated columnist Dan Savage. "Where will this insanity end?" he wrote. "If every miscarriage is a potential homicide, how does Utah avoid launching a criminal investigation every time a woman has a miscarriage? And how is Utah supposed to know when a pregnant woman has had a miscarriage? You're going to have to create some sort of pregnancy registry to keep track of all those foetuses. Perhaps you could start issuing 'conception certificates' to women who get pregnant. And then, if there isn't a babby within nine months of the issuance of a conception certificate, the woman could be hauled in for questioning."

Utah is used to criticism from some of its more liberal neighbours for its socially conservative ways that range from allowing concealed guns on its state university campus to strict limits on alcohol sales. It has not gone unnoticed that consideration of the bill, with the potentially high costs it would entail, has coincided with a debate on cancelling the last year of school for Utah children to help to save the state money.

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Re: New proposed Utah miscarriage law

Postby Arloest » Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:21 pm

Utah is the epicenter of a massive strike-slip fault of dumb.
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Re: New proposed Utah miscarriage law

Postby Maggot Brain » Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:48 pm

Well that's stupid. Utah sucks btw. When I lived there, I was friends with every kid who wasn't Mormon. I had eight friends.

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Re: New proposed Utah miscarriage law

Postby osprey » Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:37 am

They should all be shot.
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Re: New proposed Utah miscarriage law

Postby Gecko » Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:39 am

cancelling the last year of school for Utah children to help to save the state money.
Judging by the idiocy displayed in the bill, the children in the state are either getting very little out of their education or are moving out of Utah. Might as well just dismantle their entire education system and proceed with spending all available funds on hounding pregnant women.

Also, am I the one who feels it's awkwardly redundant to say 'pregnant woman?'
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Re: New proposed Utah miscarriage law

Postby Arloest » Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:45 am

Why not just eliminate Utah entirely?

Replace it with a state called Scandinaviutah that is filled with people who listen to melodic death MEHTUL.

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Re: New proposed Utah miscarriage law

Postby Cactus Jack » Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:43 pm

The bill should be refined some more but I think there should be a law against trying to cause a miscarriage and especially a law against drinking, smoking, or drugging while pregnant.

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Re: New proposed Utah miscarriage law

Postby Happy Rutabegas year » Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:05 pm

Why not just eliminate Utah entirely?

Replace it with a state called Scandinaviutah that is filled with people who listen to melodic death MEHTUL.

Hell yes.
I'm fine with this so long as anyone in the US who likes death MEHTUL has to move there.

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Re: New proposed Utah miscarriage law

Postby Bocaj Claw » Wed Mar 03, 2010 6:48 pm

I will never for the life of me understand the fetus fetishization in this country.
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Re: New proposed Utah miscarriage law

Postby Happy Rutabegas year » Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:33 pm

christians and conservatives are horribly opposed to abortion because they have sexual fetishes for infants.

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Re: New proposed Utah miscarriage law

Postby Doc Sigma » Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:40 pm

christians and conservatives are horribly opposed to abortion because they have sexual fetishes for infants.
If this were Twitter I'd totally retweet that

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Re: New proposed Utah miscarriage law

Postby Happy Rutabegas year » Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:45 pm

thank fetus it's not!

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Re: New proposed Utah miscarriage law

Postby Tom_Radigan » Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:22 pm

christians and conservatives are horribly opposed to abortion because they have sexual fetishes for infants.
I wonder what you would say if the term "Homosexuals" were substituted for "christians and conservatives"? :evil:

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Re: New proposed Utah miscarriage law

Postby Happy Rutabegas year » Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:00 pm

what? I wasn't whining about anything. We all know that Homosexuals don't have a fetish for infants, they want abortions so that they can use the stem cells to grow and attach functioning penises on every woman on the earth...

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Re: New proposed Utah miscarriage law

Postby Arloest » Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:34 pm

Replacing 'Christians and conservatives' with 'homosexuals' in that context doesn't even make SENSE. What are you talking about?
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