Same-Gender Marraige

Miles E Traysandor · Postby **Miles E Traysandor** » Mon May 17, 2004 2:23 pm

Read: <a href='http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegio ... leid=28187' target='_blank'>http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegio ... br>Similar stories are on the front page of EVERY Massachusetts newspaper in the state this morning. Same gender marraiges are now legal in this state that I inhabit. Personally, I am both for it and against it for verious reasons, none of which relate to religion Comments?

Softpaw · Postby **Softpaw** » Mon May 17, 2004 6:48 pm

I think it's wonderful news, I just wish Virginia would do the same.

The_Sparrow_ · Postby **The_Sparrow_** » Mon May 17, 2004 8:03 pm

For it - Simply because I've never heard a good reason (or what I consider a good reason rather) why not.

Ankaris · Postby **Ankaris** » Mon May 17, 2004 8:28 pm

Ditto, Sparrow!

Zaaphod · Postby **Zaaphod** » Mon May 17, 2004 8:33 pm

I'm for it. Now, ten years ago, I would have been against it, because I was an idiot and thought it would somehow affect me. Total nonsense of course.

Softpaw · Postby **Softpaw** » Mon May 17, 2004 10:09 pm

I know the feeling, I used to be an ultra-conservative redneck, but I've recovered <img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... s/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' />

Sakie · Postby **Sakie** » Mon May 17, 2004 11:00 pm

for it man, some people are getting mad about people haveing gay marraige i mean let people do gay marraige if they want to who cares? it does not affect me none and how does it affect the people who oppose it? let people do it if they want. thats what i say.

Salad Man · Postby **Salad Man** » Mon May 17, 2004 11:17 pm

I'm "for it but also kind of a bit against it." By that I mean that there should be government-sanctioned "civil unions" that have the same benefits as marriage for everybody - including heterosexuals. Then, if you want, you could go to your local church, mosque, synagogue, or other house of worship and get a religion-sanctioned marriage (and, of course, said institutions would have the right to refuse services to anybody they wish). That way, the barrier between the religious and the government is preserved, homosexuals get their unions, and people don't have a right to complain the sanctity of marriage, the incredible life force that powers the universe, being disturbed. Everybody wins.

Dr. Dos · Postby **Dr. Dos** » Mon May 17, 2004 11:32 pm

For it. Now you can legally marry somebody of the same sex in 2% of America. It's a start... But with the few gay people I know online I say yay to them. Yay. This morning I was watching the news and they were talking about it, I'd say there were two things that caught my eye: 1) These two guys who got married who both looked a lot like Bill Gates. 2) This crazy religious nut with a big sign saying "HOMOSEXUALS ARE POSSESSED BY THE DEVIL!" on it. Edit: Also these poll results so far rock.

Northern_l33tness · Postby **Northern_l33tness** » Mon May 17, 2004 11:50 pm

I'm Canadian, and Canada is already well on the path to legalization (though it still might get derail at some point). I have to say I'm in support because not only do I think it doesn't hurt anyone, but because I have an uncle who is gay (though he has no plans to get married at this point. Not sure about a few of his friends). Of course, I wouldn't mention this to a few of the people on my mom's side of the family, who are on the opposite end of the political and religious spectrum from my dad's side of the family. No wonder we usually have several small family reunions instead of one big one...

Miles E Traysandor · Postby **Miles E Traysandor** » Tue May 18, 2004 1:18 am

I voted Decline to Comment because my mind has both supporting and against views, and, bieng in the tired state of physical and mental condition that currently represents my body, I have no desire to see the two sides argue about it.

The_Sparrow_ · Postby **The_Sparrow_** » Tue May 18, 2004 4:03 am

Actually I should have mentioned there will almost certainly be civil unions here in New Zealand, both major political parties (Nation and Labour) support it and the only real opposition in parliment is coming from a small, insignifigant "family values" party (United Future) that will have a grant total of... 1 seat come the next election.

Foxchild · Postby **Foxchild** » Tue May 18, 2004 6:02 am

For it. As far as it goes in america, why should there be something set up to DENY a fredom that has NO HARMUL EFFECT on the government at all, NO HARMFUL EFFECT on people because such a thing exists, and brings so much happiness to those who get married? as it goes for anywhere else? well, i seriously don't see any reason at all that is well founded to prevent such a thing at all. My entire family, including my grandfather (a bit) are for them, and mind you, my grandfather is pretty conservative! oh well, as time progresses this should all work out... hopefully a LOT sooner rather than later.

Zylo · Postby **Zylo** » Tue May 18, 2004 6:48 am

Here's how I see it: the only reason any politician gives against gay marriage is because of "religious morals." Well, don't we have separation of church and state? The government can't use "religious morals" to argue against anything; thus, their argument is dead. The government has no legal right to deny gay couples the full legal beneits of marriage. Formal marriage, however, is a chrch issue, and the church may still reserve the right to deny marriage (just as they can deny marriage blessings to straight couples, too). The government should have to recognize unions as full legal marriage. The church is still free to decide on what it feels is right, though. So in conclusion, I'm all for them.

Softpaw · Postby **Softpaw** » Tue May 18, 2004 7:16 am

Y'all rock. That is all. <img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... /smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' />

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