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Postby Septimius Severus » Thu Dec 02, 2004 12:38 am

¡Mueran todos los reyes!

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Postby Holyman83 » Thu Dec 02, 2004 1:08 am

ohhh it has bluple on the map <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... /smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--><br><br>mhhh... lets see if they can figure out what bluple is
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Postby Ruedii-X » Thu Dec 02, 2004 1:45 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-Septimius Severus+Dec 1 2004, 07:38 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Septimius Severus @ Dec 1 2004, 07:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> <a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Ukra ... .png/800px' target='_blank'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Ukra ... br>Discuss. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> Hmm, about as close as the US elections. You realize Bush didn't really win by the landslide he claims he did, he actually won by only a tiny bit. If Bush had lost Ohio he would have lost, and he only won Ohio by a few percentage points. In fact, Ohio's results were postponed for over 12 hours, because of the fact that the small percentage that was still uncounted was enough to give Kerry the state.<br><br>Also, one of our congress seats in this section of Ohio was extremely close, especially considering that I live in a primarily republican portion of Ohio. The Democrat canidate actually won in my county, and only lost in the other counties by a small margine.<br><br>It's quite interesting to see that the US isn't the only one with close elections.

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Postby Richard K Niner » Fri Dec 03, 2004 9:03 pm

Not like the results on that map have any significance. <a href='http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/ ... 41203.html' target='_blank'>The Ukranian Supreme Court nullified them already</a>.
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Postby Septimius Severus » Sun Dec 05, 2004 10:15 am

Perhaps as close, but that was not my point.<br><br><br>The point is that the country is extremely polarized. In no US state did a candidate have more than 71.1% (Utah, Bush) of the Vote. If you care to notice, most of the regions of the Ukraine are more clearly defined than that. I am willing to bet real cash money that no candidate in the US has ever won 96% of any state, and nor will that ever happen.<br><br><br>If someone tries to tell me this is due to the runoff election system, I will be forced to murder them for use of faulty logic.
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Postby Gizensha » Sun Dec 05, 2004 2:51 pm

OK... So the Ukrainian system is an election, if no-one has a majority, the two highest people enter into a second round election?<br><br>How is the first round voted for, is what I'm wondering. I'm currently thinking that it's probably Singular Plurality, which if it was... Well... Most other election systems instead of, this runoff system shouldn't be needed.<br><br>Well, at least singular plurality with runoff in case of no majority is superior to a simple singular plurality, but still... Would be better if they had a decent voting system in the first place rather than making a poor one somewhat better.
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Postby Muninn » Tue Dec 07, 2004 4:10 pm

There are still a lot of the opposition populace sitting outside goverment buildings in tents. They've got good organisation, food and clothing is being taken care of it seems. It seems Yuschenkov (probably spelled that wrong) is encouraging them to stay till the second round elections.<br><br>One thing i heard was that this could result in a babby-boom 9 months from now because there are a lot of young people there and some are getting married. They called it Ukraine's Woodstock.


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