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In the recent US elections, John Kerry showed a marked lead among women voters, whereas George W. Bush had a large advantage among men. This highlights a central matter of policy: Democrats think more like women, and Republicans think more like men. The Republican philosophy is, at its base, "I know what is right, and everyone will do as I say, because it is the right thing." Democrats think, "I do not know what is right, but I have my ideas, and other people have theirs. Let us live together in a way where we can all believe what we want to without hurting each other."<br><br>The end result of Republican ideals is to create a government in which you are perfectly free to do... exactly what society expects. What is right is determined by majority opinion. You do what you're supposed to. If your ideals conflict with majority opinion, you're in hot water.<br><br>The end result for a Democrat world is a government that takes care of you no matter what you do. It's ok if you're antisocial and lazy; the people who genuinely care to work hard will pick up the slack for you. Any trespass can be forgiven. It's a nice place to be a lazy scumbag.<br><br>Both sides think they're the guardians of freedom. The Republicans will point towards their support of the industrious. If you fit in, the Republican world is a very nice place to be. The Democrats will say that they support free choice. You can do whatever you want in their world, so long as you don't hurt someone (or someone prone to whining.) The problem with both philosophies is they wind up with the government controlling people. For the republicans, it's Father Washington, and for the Democrats it's Mother G.<br><br>The Celts of Gaul never had any formal system of Government. Some were "Republics," or "Monarchies," but in fact they were voluntary groups of people. Kings before Caesar came were individuals whose charisma and leadership motivated others to follow and support them. Republics were in fact tribal councils of people whom the tribe considered wise and honorable enough to make decisions for the group. There were no laws, other than "don't hurt me, or I'll kill you." Therefore, warfare was constant. But there was freedom to be enjoyed. No people taking your money "for your own good," and no people stoning you to death for heresy.<br><br>Could we recapture that sort of society? No. But it's nice to think that we could. So next time someone mugs you on the street, don't call the cops. Find the perpetrator yourself and kill him. Next time you get your tax forms, don't pay them. Burn them and move somewhere else. Neighbor plays his music too loud? Explain to him in a calm voice that if he does not turn it down, you will throw a molotov cocktail in his window while he is asleep.<br><br>Violence is freedom.

Ahh, the smell anarchy, that stench is unmistakable

Verily it doth smell of alcohol, lighter fluid and burnt carbon...<br><br><!--emo&:P--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... tongue.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tongue.gif' /><!--endemo--><br><br>The problem with anarchy as a political system is that it tends to be idealistic about humans, and based around a world where no large-scale method of government appears to be the norm.<br><br>Because establishing such a political system would require massive internal rebellion, and hence deaths, and unless the entire Earth revolted at the same time (let's face it, not going to happen) other governments would either<br><br>a) Step in and take control. For the people's own good of course.<br><!--emo&B)--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... s/cool.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='cool.gif' /><!--endemo--> Help reestablish political order for humanitarian interests... Iraq anyone?

At least anarchy would be a lot more fun than this.<br><br>...hmm... what if we had a system where people fought each other with play weapons to decide about things?<br><br>...hey, they wouldn't be any less mature for it than they already are.<br><br><br>(Yeah, this was the one that I posted on the wrong topic. sorry again.)

Oh yeah, anarchy, <i>that'll</i> work. <!--emo&<_<--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... ns/dry.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='dry.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Anarchist: "I'm going to a meeting of Anarchists Unite."<br><br>Friend: "Isn't that like, an oxymoron?"<br><br>(short clip I saw of <i>Joan of Arcadia</i>)

Anarchy is perfect.<br><br>People aren't.<br><br>That's what doesn't work about it.

<!--QuoteBegin-Jacob+Nov 22 2004, 04:08 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Jacob @ Nov 22 2004, 04:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> Oh yeah, anarchy, <i>that'll</i> work. <!--emo&<_<--><img src='http://definecynical.mancubus.net/forum ... ns/dry.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='dry.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> Oh yeah, this was a serious proposal.

<!--QuoteBegin-Dr. Dos+Nov 22 2004, 10:59 PM--> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' ><tr><td class='quotetop'><b>Quote:</b> (Dr. Dos @ Nov 22 2004, 10:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quotebody'> Anarchy is perfect.<br><br>People aren't.<br><br>That's what doesn't work about it. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table> <!--QuoteEEnd--><br> Naw, anarchy lives off people's imperfections - after all, if society was perfect, what'd there be to fight against?<br><br>now, <br>communism is perfect.<br><br>People aren't.<br><br>That's what doesn't work about it.

Heh I usually use that statement as communism but thought it could apply fairly well to anarchy as well.

I don't think so. Anarchy isn't perfect; it's just fun.<br><br>Unstable, dangerous, and undemocratic, but fun if you've got the guns.

Anarchy wouldn't really last very long. In fairly short order, some warlord would just seize power.

Sorry Septimus, but the length of your post was a bit long for a joke, i took it as serious.

Maybe they should just make one with Librels and the other one's put together then everyone'll be happy.<br>Well, I doubt that but it's better than just fighting for what you want all the time.

I get that often. Maybe I'm alone in this, but one of my favorite passtimes is to take whatever I happen to be thinking about (in this case, limiting government) and taking it to a ridiculous extreme. I could say it helps me keep things in perspective, or that I try to keep myself humble, but in reality, I just like writing nutty rants. If Karl Marx were like me, the Communist Manifesto would sound less like Plato's Republic and more like the Borg of Star Trek infamy.<br><br><br>Burning Sheep: The point is not "fighting for what you want," but fighting because fighting is fun. You can't do swordfights with random people whenever you want and be depressed. It just doesn't work like that.